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Re: Abdoulaye Doucoure

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:51 pm
by StirlingBlue
brap2 wrote:I think the fans feelings on Doucs at the minute Vs Moyes feelings might be v V different
The fact that he managed to lose the ball on the edge of our box and also their box really sums him up as a player.

Like yeah he’s losing the ball, but he also covers so much ground that he manages to lose the ball in so many different locations Image

Re: Abdoulaye Doucoure

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:22 pm
by Deano Blue Boy
It breaks my heart hearing bad things about him.

I love him to bits after that Bournemouth goal

Re: Abdoulaye Doucoure

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:49 am
by Jamokachi
Deano Blue Boy wrote:It breaks my heart hearing bad things about him.

I love him to bits after that Bournemouth goal
We all do, but equally realise that we desperately need to move on (whilst retaining the energy and press he brings).


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Re: Abdoulaye Doucoure

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:01 am
by AndSeel
After the Spurs game i was thinking about how poor his ball retention is, but unless it was confirmation bias, it all seems to go west for him when he tires. Maybe if we can hook him after 60 65 mins then we would review his performances a lot better.

He was very very good first half vs Spurs afterall.

Re: Abdoulaye Doucoure

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:52 am
by brap2
Just don't know what type of player you buy to replace him.

He's still playing as an attacking midfielder for us, and moves break down constantly due to his decisions or technique, but he is all over the pitch bullying people constantly.

You need height, you need to win duals, you need to be strong, you need to cover ground, you need to compete. I don't like it either but we compete much better when he's on the pitch and Moyes sees that a mile off.

Re: Abdoulaye Doucoure

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:09 am
by Goaljira
brap2 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:52 am Just don't know what type of player you buy to replace him.

He's still playing as an attacking midfielder for us, and moves break down constantly due to his decisions or technique, but he is all over the pitch bullying people constantly.

You need height, you need to win duals, you need to be strong, you need to cover ground, you need to compete. I don't like it either but we compete much better when he's on the pitch and Moyes sees that a mile off.
Sounds a lot like we need the equivalent of a curly haired fella that Moyes took with him to United.

Re: Abdoulaye Doucoure

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 12:27 pm
by Big Nevs Vaz
Goaljira wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:09 am Sounds a lot like we need the equivalent of a curly haired fella that Moyes took with him to United.
Felli had a better touch that Duke and was much better at bringing players into the game. Great header of the ball.
Duke is an athlete, much more mobile.
A blend of the two would be ideal but I'm sure that player is probably around 80 million on the market.

Re: Abdoulaye Doucoure

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 12:50 pm
by AjaxAndy
Doucoure is the plaster over our inability to retain possession. We need to move away from requiring someone to paper over the cracks by being a mad pressing machine to try win it back high up the pitch, especially as he can't do that as well now.

It worked under Dyche last season because his mad engine meant we could force turnovers in the oppositions half, but he's a shadow of that this year. We definitely shouldn't be looking for a replacement who's similar, I'd much rather us have 3 technical players behind the striker who can press rather than someone with no technical ability and crazy energy.

I think in Ndaiye and Lindstrom we have that, just need one more in there who is pacy as well as having some technical ability and we'd be so much better for it.

Duke's been a good servant but this was a season too far for him unfortunately and we shouldn't be looking for a similar player to replace him.

Re: Abdoulaye Doucoure

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 12:52 pm
by brap2
Big Nevs Vaz wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 12:27 pm Felli had a better touch that Duke and was much better at bringing players into the game. Great header of the ball.
Duke is an athlete, much more mobile.
A blend of the two would be ideal but I'm sure that player is probably around 80 million on the market.
Sadly he's called Scott McTominay as much as I don't like him

Re: Abdoulaye Doucoure

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:05 pm
by Big Nevs Vaz
brap2 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 12:52 pm Sadly he's called Scott McTominay as much as I don't like him
40/45 mill gets you a Scott McTominay. Late runs into the box, plenty of goals. Still doesnt cover the ground Doucoure does though.
Where's the next Bruno Guimaraes?

Re: Abdoulaye Doucoure

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:08 pm
by Gary1878
He is limited in his footballing ability but he is a machine. He must be so annoying to play against. Constantly in the faces of the opposition, awkward, tall, strong. And when he does have a good game on the ball, my God does he warrant his place in the side.

With his game as it is, I don’t see why you wouldn’t offer him another year at a reasonable wage. His stamina will be the same next year - just look at Gana. He looks after himself and will allow us to get a bit of depth on the bench.

Re: Abdoulaye Doucoure

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:18 pm
by bigmanbob
The championship is full of players who are athletes and can run. I bet loads of them have more skill on the ball than Doucoure

Re: Abdoulaye Doucoure

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:20 pm
by Bluedylan1
Not really a fan. Would be looking to sell if/when we can, after the season is over.

There's pressing machines all over Europe. Some of them even have technical ability.

Re: Abdoulaye Doucoure

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:22 pm
by AjaxAndy
Bluedylan1 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:20 pm Not really a fan. Would be looking to sell if/when we can, after the season is over.

There's pressing machines all over Europe. Some of them even have technical ability.
Out of contract in the summer isn't he?

Re: Abdoulaye Doucoure

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:25 pm
by Bluedylan1
AjaxAndy wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:22 pm Out of contract in the summer isn't he?
Sound.