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9 minutes and DCL finishing off one of his two one on ones away from being on 4 points.

It's grim but it's not desperate (yet).

We shouldn't have to score 3 goals to take something out of a match though. We didn't lose today because DCL only scored 1 of his 3 decent chances. We lost because the defence is horrific.

What's he said after the game?

Sacking him is still way out of the question.

People need to realise the chaos that puts the club in.

Just got to hope we start to pick up results. Get 37 points, finish 17th. That’s still easily done from here.

Done. But not easily done

I still feel like we’re going to turn a corner.

Right back is a real weakness but I cannot imagine us remaining this shit defensively with a fit Branthwaite.

At some point, this will be an effective defensive unit and there’s just enough in attack to see us to midtable (not accounting for additional bad luck in the form of injuries).

I just don’t fuckin know anymore. His one big plus point was keeping us tight and compact. That’s completely gone. The fact he’s gone from that the 13 goals in 4 games concerns me more than the results, he’s just not getting a tune out of them anymore. The one thing that will keep him in is who do you get? Moyes divides the fan base and is pretty much more of the same. Shit hits the fan if we lose at Leicester though

Doucoure comes straight back into the side for me.

Possibly for PSR Tim.

TheRam wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2024 8:41 pm Doucoure comes straight back into the side for me.

Possibly for PSR Tim.

One of the worst shouts ever, finally have someone that looks comfortable on the ball and you want to take him out in place of that abomination

Need to stop the panic... We're scoring at least but leaky at the back. When we get that sorted we'll pick up the points. Shouts to sack Dyche are over reacting

We know Dyche is a capable PL manager. He is not Lampard. Although sure I get why people don't like his style.

The problems come back to the squad, as they have for many, many seasons. We have a player who is almost 40 in our back line and our squad is duct taped together with loans.

I just can't get that mad at what a manager does in this situation even if they might be making mistakes.

Raptor wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2024 8:47 pm One of the worst shouts ever, finally have someone that looks comfortable on the ball and you want to take him out in place of that abomination

Remind me how many goals we’ve conceded, and how many games we’ve won without Doucoure playing?

Tim has done well but I think we’ll start to see him struggle soon particularly on the defensive side.

I wouldn’t mind Doucoure coming in for him at all tbh.

Find it mad how he’s gone from our most important player to suddenly 5th choice cm.

I think sacking Dyche and replacing him with Moyes might give us a small immediate boost, but it wouldn't solve any of the issues we face with Dyche, it'd be just the same shite with a familiar and more acceptable face.

There's also the real danger Moyes comes in as Branthwaite and Coleman at back and suddenly we are more solid at the back and we all think he's fixed things, only the same would have happened under Dyche.

I'd happily take some sexy football merchant with positional fluidity and possession based play, but we don't have the players for that, so we need to wait for anything like that until we're in a position to implement such changes. We're a million miles away from it right now.

Think we'll be fine under Dyche this season, it's been a disappointing start but so was last year and we ended up fine despite everything else that went down.

If in 4 games time it's still every bit as bleak then ok I'm more inclined to jettison him and bring back Moyes, but not after 4 games.

TheRam wrote:Doucoure comes straight back into the side for me.

Possibly for PSR Tim.

Terrible shout. Tim needs moving forward to the 10. Doucoure into the 8 makes us a lot worse

So long as we start over with new manager in the offseason, keeping Dyche to see out this one is our best/only move. The worst thing we could do is panic and tie ourselves to another boat acnchor (Moyes).