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Robioto wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 7:59 am I'm so excited for Sunday

I've been pretty chilled all tournament because we were playing so badly I felt we'd go out before now... However now we've reached the final I'm already nervous as hell.

It's hard to see us winning this, we have form under Southgate of failing at the first main challenge... Dunno though, we've been poor and made it this far, there seems to be real grit and character in this team to go to the final whistle, we are cool under pressure and Southgate has some amazing options off the bench to change a game and seems to be using those options well.

Basically it's coming home!

I don't get why the entirety of English punditry claims the penalty wasn't really one.

Straight leg, studs up, blocking the shooting foot, it's as stonewall as it gets.

cassius wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:47 am If that challenge happened in the centre circle, high boot, studs up, does the ref give a free kick for it?

No, there was actually a very similar challenge from Mainoo not long after, and nothing was given. Rightly so in that case.

At what point will we Scouse not English from the red shite.

ITV News talking about Southgate bringing on the next generation with his subs last night. Kane (30) for Watkins (28) and Foden (24) for Palmer (22)

Shogun wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:49 pm ITV News talking about Southgate bringing on the next generation with his subs last night. Kane (30) for Watkins (28) and Foden (24) for Palmer (22)

FFS ! Foden part of the “old guard” ???

biziclop wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 10:30 am I don't get why the entirety of English punditry claims the penalty wasn't really one.

Straight leg, studs up, blocking the shooting foot, it's as stonewall as it gets.

That penalty was about as stonewall non penalty as you can get.
Gary Neville is right, it was an absolute disgrace it was given

Stumpy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:27 pm That penalty was about as stonewall non penalty as you can get.
Gary Neville is right, it was an absolute disgrace it was given

Divine retribution for Koemans not getting a red against us in the 1994 WC qualifier and us not getting the blatant penalty and then going out of WCup because he stayed on to score the winner, he admitted that it was a pen and that he should have been sent off, we’re quits now.

Flying out to Prague on Saturday. Semi tempted to hire a car and do the 4hr drive to Berlin.

velimski wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:56 pm Flying out to Prague on Saturday. Semi tempted to hire a car and do the 4hr drive to Berlin.

Do it!

Escla wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:44 pm Divine retribution for Koemans not getting a red against us in the 1994 WC qualifier and us not getting the blatant penalty and then going out of WCup because he stayed on to score the winner, he admitted that it was a pen and that he should have been sent off, we’re quits now.

Doesn't make it right, we all know he should have been sent off all those years ago and a penalty given.
But it's frightening the way the game is going now, the clown refereeing the semi final of a European championship got all the gear in the world to watch it back and thinks it's a penalty.
I don't care what happened back then, what i care about is the way this abomination is ruining the game.
Retribution or no retribution, that call last night is still an absolute disgrace

Robioto wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:56 pmDo it!

I probably would if I didn't have my non-football liking Mrs and kid with me.

It's also my nan's 98th birthday, and I'm supposed to be going over to her's for lunch FFS

The issue is VAR talking the ref through why he needs to make a decision... He's already going to the screen to view a studs up contact from the defender. If they just let him go over and see the whole incident without telling him what to look for I bet he'd be bemused about why he's re-watching the moment.

He's s not though, and it's been a problem in the Premier League too... 'ok we've seen contact from the defender with his studs, go to the screen and we'll show you a few frames in slow motion that highlight exactly what we're talking about'.

The ref isn't really an independent authority in these instances, he's purely looking at a screen to confirm that VAR are indeed seeing what they're saying they've seen.