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Raptor wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2024 11:20 am The two European finals is an important bit.

I dont see TFG having a long term strategy, like a Brighton or even the Shite, and stick to it, its going to be more like Chelsea and Everton under Moshiri, but it'll be about he changes they make and subsequently who they appoint, as that model can still work if you get the right appointments.

I dont think this was the ownership model that a lot were hoping for, one where you invest in the Director of Football, he control transfers, managerial appointments and has a vision for where you will be in X years time, but it doesnt mean what they do cant bring success

Those are pretty wild assumptions that you make , based on what ? Wouldn’t it be more prudent to reserve judgement until such a time as the takeover is complete and we see what their intentions are through their initial actions. Who says that they don’t have a long term strategy ? That they won’t invest in the DOF ? I see no grounds whatsoever to say that it’s going to be more like Chelsea ?

Escalator wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2024 11:34 am Those are pretty wild assumptions that you make , based on what ? Wouldn’t it be more prudent to reserve judgement until such a time as the takeover is complete and we see what their intentions are through their initial actions. Who says that they don’t have a long term strategy ? That they won’t invest in the DOF ? I see no grounds whatsoever to say that it’s going to be more like Chelsea ?

Thats fair enough, but on the same note there are lots of people speculating that its really positive, whats the justification for that, maybe it would be prudent to reserve judgement until such a time as the takeover is complete before making any comments, but it would be pretty boring site!

Im basing my assumptions on what I have read about their other engagements in football, and you're right, I could be wrong, I have no issue with that, it wouldn't be the first and im sure it wont be the last time

I think complaining they aren't like Brighton and the shite is an extremely high bar. If they are remotely competent and they pay the debts down that's a game changer in itself. We've been the most inept club in Europe and paying debts at 10% interest.

Raptor wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2024 11:52 am Thats fair enough, but on the same note there are lots of people speculating that its really positive, whats the justification for that, maybe it would be prudent to reserve judgement until such a time as the takeover is complete before making any comments, but it would be pretty boring site!

Im basing my assumptions on what I have read about their other engagements in football, and you're right, I could be wrong, I have no issue with that, it wouldn't be the first and im sure it wont be the last time

People are positive for many reasons, No longer fear of administration, debt burden to be cleared, no concerns about funding completion of BMD, a financialy robust new Owner with previous experience etc. Sure there are no guarantees but until such a time as we have cause for grave concern about their actions let’s just breath and enjoy our new found sense of security and stop doom mongering.

At this stage anyone vaguely competent is a massive win for us, given how desperate our situation has looked and the Friedkins seem a fair bit better than vaguely competent.

A few key encouraging things to me:

- They're already in football, so it's not going to be someone from a different industry trying their hand at footie for the first time and making rookie mistakes.

- They have plenty of their own money and are happy to put it into the business.

- They're already running a notoriously difficult club in Roma, so they're not coming here under any illusion that it's easy to run a club at the top level.

- They have quite a wide ranging business portfolio so they should have access to really good contacts for sponsorships, expertise on the board and ways to grow revenue (which they've done well at Roma).

Not bothered if their comms aren't great. Just want some brains running the operation to make us respectable and sustainable again. As long as they can do that, they can be as quiet as they want.

Pleased that a deal has been agreed, after the shambles of the Moshiri era I’m just happy if the Friedkin Group prove to be competent owners.

Obviously a long way to go and after seeing how much we’ve regressed in the last 5 years then I would be ok if for the next 2-3 years the new owners work on making us more financially stable and get us looking at becoming a top half team, even if it is just a 10th place finish

I do remember Ram having reservations about Uncle Ali being involved back in the day.

You have to read most of Ram's comments (about the woke mob, and being right again) in Luke Moore's (Football Ramble) voice these days, and you know it's mostly tongue in cheek japery.

Raptor wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2024 11:52 am Thats fair enough, but on the same note there are lots of people speculating that its really positive, whats the justification for that, maybe it would be prudent to reserve judgement until such a time as the takeover is complete before making any comments, but it would be pretty boring site!

Im basing my assumptions on what I have read about their other engagements in football, and you're right, I could be wrong, I have no issue with that, it wouldn't be the first and im sure it wont be the last time

I just think the last 5 years have been absolutely horrendous to be an Everton fan. We have been kicked whilst down every single day. With no end in sight.

It IS really positive that Moshiri is fucking off. And i think a lot of the comments about us winning stuff and being 'back' are completely tongue in cheek. But its nice to be able to have some excitement and relief back.

brap2 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2024 11:23 am Omg the ram having his Thomas moment

Good shout, I was going to say he'd had his Brap2 moment.

Raptor wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2024 11:20 am
I dont think this was the ownership model that a lot were hoping for, one where you invest in the Director of Football, he control transfers, managerial appointments and has a vision for where you will be in X years time, but it doesnt mean what they do cant bring success

I'm not sure anyone hoped for anything more than competent and can get our shit in order off the field.

We're a million miles off being bought by some rich Arab state and I'm not sure many would even want that anyway.

These guys will have a 5 year plan of stabilising and growing our finances whilst improving our fortunes on the pitch. They'll then flip us for a profit.

That's about as good as any of us could have hoped for.

Bluedylan1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:15 pm You have to read most of Ram's comments (about the woke mob, and being right again) in Luke Moore's (Football Ramble) voice these days, and you know it's mostly tongue in cheek japery.

Good to see you back. The voice of reason. I assumed you were giving yourself a break from the chaos

Gash wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:26 pm Good shout, I was going to say he'd had his Brap2 moment.

He's not been correct enough for that yet

Paddockoldie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:27 pm Good to see you back. The voice of reason. I assumed you were giving yourself a break from the chaos

Ta. Very kind of you.

Very much so. Still been watching the games, but needed a break from the endless psychodrama that is Everton. Can't really stand Dyche, so just tolerating things at the moment, and waiting til he's sent on his way. Can't be arsed with all the pro-Dyche, anti-Dyche arguments on here so just taken a step back.

Comms? If we are run properly I would accept sooty as spokesman...bear.
As a fan I want the club run professionally, aiming for trophies and success EVERY SEASON.
So comms is a low down priority for.me.
The sad fact is had.moshiri do e with the team that he did with the new ground.it could have been.legendary.
That ground is a thing of beauty. Imo, maybe a little conservative in capacity, but still a fabulous achievement.
Soontoournew custodians, the challenge goes. Can you do better? Can you leave a legacy?
Trophies? Success?