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Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:07 pm
by Gash
Think it's an old story about the three teams and £300m that's been speculated about for ages and now some media are running with it.
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:29 pm
by NickNack
CannockPricey wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:05 pm
I can't see how suing Everton would work. Everton have been punished and deducted ten points (whether that is upheld or not will be seen in due course) so haven't got away scot free.
The issue for Burnley/Leicester etc would be the timing of the penalty which falls upon the body doing the investigation and imposing the penalty, not the party receiving it.
They may or may not have a case but I just don't follow how it could be against us.
Exactly what I posted earlier. We’ve been punished - if the timing’s wrong, that’s on the PL so sue them
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:35 pm
by Shogun
I'm not sure how they could sue us anyway. It says in the final report that the Premier League tried to fast-track the punishment to last season and were denied by the independent panel because it would be wholly unfair. That's nothing to do with us.
Surely Burnley and Leicester can't both have a case for different seasons, it'd have to be one or the other. Considering we don't choose when it happens then I'd say Burnley are the only ones.
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:35 pm
by howard1334
Audrey Horne wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:34 pm
Is it confirmed then? The being sued for 300 mil? or is it bullshit click bait?
Wait until you see some rigorous legal analysis discussing the nature of the civil claims and likelihood of prevailing before getting too worried about this.
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:27 pm
by Bluedylan1
howard1334 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:35 pm
Audrey Horne wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:34 pm
Is it confirmed then? The being sued for 300 mil? or is it bullshit click bait?
Wait until you see some rigorous legal analysis discussing the nature of the civil claims and likelihood of prevailing before getting too worried about this.
Does it have to be rigorous? What if it was haphazard and ill considered?
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:47 pm
by AjaxAndy
Great clickbait article in The Mirror someone sent me earlier says we face an additional 9 points deduction too.
Thankfully that'd only be if being sued an amount we couldn't afford which put us in adminstration... So if you see any links about a further 9 points you can safely ignore.
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:52 pm
by 777Kidnappings
AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:47 pm
Great clickbait article in The Mirror someone sent me earlier says we face an additional 9 points deduction too.
Thankfully that'd only be if being sued an amount we couldn't afford which put us in adminstration... So if you see any links about a further 9 points you can safely ignore.
Does the 300m we get sued for come off our ffp too?? Did we get a fine?? Does that come off our ffp??
Isn't ffp about protecting clubs. It's made us pretty safe hasn't it.
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:24 pm
by MexicanToffee
Fuck ‘em all, fuck em all,
Their lawyers, their courts and their ball
Fuck all the refs and their miserable lives,
fuck all the media and their bollocks for lies,
Because we’re giving our all to the team,
As back up the table we’ll scream
You’ll get our devotion and loads of emotion so cheer up my lads and fuck em all.
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:38 pm
by Cereal Killer
777Kidnappings wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:52 pm
AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:47 pm
Great clickbait article in The Mirror someone sent me earlier says we face an additional 9 points deduction too.
Thankfully that'd only be if being sued an amount we couldn't afford which put us in adminstration... So if you see any links about a further 9 points you can safely ignore.
Does the 300m we get sued for come off our ffp too?? Did we get a fine?? Does that come off our ffp??
Isn't ffp about protecting clubs. It's made us pretty safe hasn't it.
Almost got there
Once it’s completely fucked us, they can go “oh it’s not working how it should, let’s change it/scrap it” and hey presto, City, Chelsea and anyone else get off scot free
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:00 pm
by Trowel
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1725995624871391528
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:32 pm
by AjaxAndy
Could an unlikely positive of this be that we fight it in the courts and sustainability rules are found to be unlawful, and the whole FFP circus finally come to an end?
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:36 pm
by Escalator
AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:47 pm
Great clickbait article in The Mirror someone sent me earlier says we face an additional 9 points deduction too.
Thankfully that'd only be if being sued an amount we couldn't afford which put us in adminstration... So if you see any links about a further 9 points you can safely ignore.
Can Moshiri afford a £300 m fine then if that were to happen ?
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:43 pm
by Escalator
AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:47 pm
Great clickbait article in The Mirror someone sent me earlier says we face an additional 9 points deduction too.
Thankfully that'd only be if being sued an amount we couldn't afford which put us in adminstration... So if you see any links about a further 9 points you can safely ignore.
Can Moshiri afford a £300 m fine then if that were to happen ?
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:15 am
by weimaranerblues
Escla wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:43 pm
AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:47 pm
Great clickbait article in The Mirror someone sent me earlier says we face an additional 9 points deduction too.
Thankfully that'd only be if being sued an amount we couldn't afford which put us in adminstration... So if you see any links about a further 9 points you can safely ignore.
Can Moshiri afford a £300 m fine then if that were to happen ?
Think you already know the answer to that
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:22 am
by 777Kidnappings
Surely a fair ffp punishment would be a fine of the amount you've gone over and a reduction from the 105m you're allowed going forwards. The fine also comes off the ffp. That way people are stopped because you lose more spend then you've gained. It seems at odds with fairness that teams lose season changing amounts of points for a first offence.
Also shouldn't the punishments whatever they are have been outlined beforehand