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Harrison typifies everything thats wrong with Everton - whoever’s fault it is…Sign a player who is obviously better and more productive playing from the left. Has he ever started a game for us there?

NickNack wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:53 am Harrison typifies everything thats wrong with Everton - whoever’s fault it is…Sign a player who is obviously better and more productive playing from the left. Has he ever started a game for us there?

He was third choice winger for a championship side

Jimmywhack wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 11:01 am He was third choice winger for a championship side

Granted but he played 78 games in his last 2 seasons with Leeds and given that we were shopping in the equivalent of the whoops aisle at Asda, signing him knowing his stats show he is better on the left and playing him on the right makes no sense.

NickNack wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 11:05 am Granted but he played 78 games in his last 2 seasons with Leeds and given that we were shopping in the equivalent of the whoops aisle at Asda, signing him knowing his stats show he is better on the left and playing him on the right makes no sense.

Signing him injured wasnt great either

If we are honest he reeks of a dyche signing cos of how he works defensively

As with all these we wont ever know

TheRam wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:42 am 8 goals from playing on the left in one season for Leeds.

In his last season, when they went down, he had 7 goals and 5 assists playing on the left and the right.

Look and Danjumas output everywhere he’s been other than us.

Even beto is just used as a big lump when most of his goals come from running in behind.

I’m not going to judge any attacking players until we have a new manager.

7 goals and 5 assists in a team that was mad attacking and conceded almost 80 goals in that season... Come on you must be able to appreciate that he played in such a specific team that it hugely inflated his numbers whilst also sending the team crashing out of the league with one of the worst defensive records in Premier League history?

Sure the manager isn't giving him the setup to do that here but neither should he because it was shown to be absolutely disastrous.

Dyche is not doing a good job, no disagreement, but Harrison is also mega shit and I don't see how anyone can argue otherwise whilst keeping a straight face. It's fine if you think he's good but you'll never convince me that's the case because I've seen him play enough to know otherwise.

AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 1:22 pm 7 goals and 5 assists in a team that was mad attacking and conceded almost 80 goals in that season... Come on you must be able to appreciate that he played in such a specific team that it hugely inflated his numbers whilst also sending the team crashing out of the league with one of the worst defensive records in Premier League history?

Sure the manager isn't giving him the setup to do that here but neither should he because it was shown to be absolutely disastrous.

Dyche is not doing a good job, no disagreement, but Harrison is also mega shit and I don't see how anyone can argue otherwise whilst keeping a straight face. It's fine if you think he's good but you'll never convince me that's the case because I've seen him play enough to know otherwise.

There’s space between Uber negative football and ultra pressing and attacking football.

I just see the common denominator in how our attacking players have performed, the managers mentality and how he sets us up to play football.

He’s making everyone look worse than they are from the players to director of football.

Massive difference between rating someone and thinking a different system gets more change out of them

Nobody is asking for 15 g+a. We would like to see a couple. I don’t know why we’d have to ship 80 goals for the sake of an attacking player contributing more than 0. Sounds like arguing for the sake of it tbh.

Ndaiye has 2 goal involvements whilst we are apparently playing him in the incorrect position.

McNeil has 6 playing in the wrong position.

We play Harrison in the wrong position and he contributes zero involvements.

So if others can do it I'm not sure how there's an argument that it's purely down to the manager.

Or is the argument we shouldn't be playing him on the right but we already have McNeil and Ndaiye for that position, so we've signed someone who can't play on the right and we've no need for on the left... Is that good transfer strategy by the DOF?

If people are using Harrison as a positive in the Thelwell box then I'm at a loss, genuinely am. Even if people think Dyche is ruining players I don't believe there's any argument for Harrison being a good player, he's not.

He had decent enough numbers in an ultra attacking team that was so attacking it conceded a jaw dropping number of goals, and if we were more attacking he might contribute the odd goal involvement, but he's still a poor player in that scenario.

He doesn't solve any issues we have in the squad makeup, neither does Lindstrom. We've spent the last 2 years trying to shoe horn poor players in to the right wing slot because Thelwell hasn't signed anyone who is actually any good there... That's very telling.

Lindstrom shite is he?

TheRam wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 1:33 pm There’s space between Uber negative football and ultra pressing and attacking football.

I just see the common denominator in how our attacking players have performed, the managers mentality and how he sets us up to play football.

He’s making everyone look worse than they are from the players to director of football.

I think Bournemouth scared the shit out of him, and rather than take the positives from the game, which there were for 86 minutes, hes shit his pants about how we collapsed, and that hurt him, Dyche teams dont capitulate like that.
Since then the general performances and approach have been so dire its unreal and it must be painful for the team to be part of.

brap2 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 3:21 pm Lindstrom - shite isn’t he?

Yep

brap2 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 3:21 pm Lindstrom shite is he?

As a right winger he is. I'd very much like to see him in the 10, especially if we got Potter or someone who played duel 10s in a 3-4-2-1 alongside Ndaiye.

But if he's been brought in to play on the right it's not a good signing because he doesn't look comfortable there and he has no real pace like everyone else in the team.

I don't think anyone can argue he hasn't been poor thus far and doesn't solve any of the issues with the right side that's plagued us for the past 2 seasons.

I would argue that Harrison has had to defend more (and is probably being asked to) defend more on the right hand side due to our ridiculous situation at RB.

His attacking output has been poor throughout his time at the club, but tactically, there is no doubt he is being asked to sit in front of the RB to protect them.

A better right back equals a better Harrison and better wide players. Otherwise you will keep seeing Harrison run into blind alleyways and lose the ball. Now that still might continue even with a proper RB, but I would suggest that his attacking stats would improve considerably.

I think the main issue with our attacking players is a lack of confidence on the ball. When you don’t have possession for large periods of matches, there is more pressure to do something when you do have the ball. In addition, the more you have of the ball, the more touches you have to play yourself into some form and to create something.

I think there is talent in our squad. It’s still lower-mid table level but instead of the manager using players energy to create and attack teams, it is used for defensive, off the ball running to close down spaces, and then to use the counter attack/long ball by direct passing.

brap2 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 3:21 pm Lindstrom shite is he?

Someone posted he hadn't scored a goal for 60 odd games. So yeah it appears he's shite