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Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:22 am
by Paddockoldie
Kerryblueboy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:49 am
Good defensively but shite on the ball would make a good left sided defender in a back 3
I've always thought he'd be a better LCB than a LB, but agree we need better to move forward, but in fairness he's improved attack wise I think
Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:36 am
by 777Kidnappings
I don't mind him. He isn't great offensively but I'm not sure he's any worse than Patterson who people insisted was great when he didn't play.
Think he's good enough defensively to contribute to a very decent everton team. The problem is we've got nothing from fullback or the wings or midfield offensively
Think he'd be looked on much better if we get a good attacking right back and some threat from the wings
Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2025 9:07 am
by AjaxAndy
He's definitely not our biggest problem but he's still a problem.
You can't have a full back in this day and age who's total assist output in 4 seasons is a laughable 1 assist.
Another player who seems like a nice bloke and has a nice smile but ultimately isn't good enough.
I'd be ok with him still being a starting player next season as he's good defensively, but we absolutely have to move on from him soon.
Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2025 10:45 am
by The Doc
Depending who the opposition is, the area of the pitch he's playing, quite high up, we could play McNeil there. But only with O'Brien at RB.
Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2025 8:11 pm
by Cozzie
Think he's perfectly fine to keep around.
Admit though he shouldn't be our starting LB.
More than capable though. Improve on him, but don't sell him. We still need a squad.
Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2025 8:13 pm
by 777Kidnappings
Think we've got 5 or 6 we need for the 1st 11 before we replace him and then probably another half a dozen minimum before he's not even worth place in the squad
Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 9:40 am
by brap2
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Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 10:58 am
by Gary1878
He is a solid PL left back but that’s it.
He has shown enthusiasm in attack under Moyes but little end product. If we want to get back into Europe, then you need quality full backs who provide goals/assists
Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 11:12 am
by 777Kidnappings
Gary1878 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 29, 2025 10:58 am
He is a solid PL left back but that’s it.
He has shown enthusiasm in attack under Moyes but little end product. If we want to get back into Europe, then you need quality full backs who provide goals/assists
The problem is you'll be lucky if we've got more than 3 or 4 here who will get us back into Europe
Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 12:21 pm
by Gary1878
777Kidnappings wrote: ↑Tue Apr 29, 2025 11:12 am
The problem is you'll be lucky if we've got more than 3 or 4 here who will get us back into Europe
I think that’s the point though - is that we need to build around those players that are good enough to take us forward, and the ones that aren’t can become squad players or leave over time.
Nothing wrong with Myko at all. He is a good player but we need a team of 6/7 very good players with 1/2 top drawer performers to get us back to being in Europe, alongside a good keeper, which we are lucky enough to have.
Apart from the GK, Branthwaite and Ndiaye (based on his form pre injury), I wouldn’t say we have anyone else who you could rely on going into the next 2/3 seasons. They are either too old, not good enough or out of contract.
There is a heck of a lot riding on the next 3/4 transfer windows for the club. If we get it wrong, then we know what that future looks like from the start of the Moshiri era.
Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 3:28 pm
by Mouse
I'm going to hate myself for this when I look back in 12 months time but, I think there's more to be had from Mykolenko. He improved hugely defensively over the last two seasons and (slipping on my optimistic blue-tinted glasses) I think he can be improved as an attacking LB. I know it's a well-worn excuse but, we saw him literally stop 20 yards inside the opponents half and run back under Dyche. I remember laughing with others at the Park End, it was like someone had pulled an invisible leash.
I don't expect him to become Leighton Baines, but I do believe that given more freedom and encouragement by Moyes, we will see him in far more advanced positions and providing decent service. He is capable of it, I've seen him put in some excellent crosses. Having the chance to do it often and regularly will improve him enough for us to be more focused on improving other areas in the short-term.
Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:16 am
by Toddacelli
Mouse wrote: ↑Tue Apr 29, 2025 3:28 pm
I'm going to hate myself for this when I look back in 12 months time but, I think there's more to be had from Mykolenko. He improved hugely defensively over the last two seasons and (slipping on my optimistic blue-tinted glasses) I think he can be improved as an attacking LB. I know it's a well-worn excuse but, we saw him literally stop 20 yards inside the opponents half and run back under Dyche. I remember laughing with others at the Park End, it was like someone had pulled an invisible leash.
I don't expect him to become Leighton Baines, but I do believe that given more freedom and encouragement by Moyes, we will see him in far more advanced positions and providing decent service. He is capable of it, I've seen him put in some excellent crosses. Having the chance to do it often and regularly will improve him enough for us to be more focused on improving other areas in the short-term.
I agree with this. In the interests of a solid rebuild over multiple windows, Myko could easily be here and first choice LB a while longer.
Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 1:07 pm
by Blueomar
There's certainly a greater need at positions other than LB. Myko is serviceable for the time being.
Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:32 pm
by UnsyisaRhino
if we bring in an actual right back who can offer something going forward, we could keep using the system we use now, but swap sides, Myko becomes the more defensive left back who slots in to allow the right back to push on and get up the pitch.
Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:45 pm
by brap2
If we added a good LB who can offer something, JOB resumes as the defensive RB.
Think Moyes will go this direction.
Even in this team Myko has been used as a crap attacking LB rather than a Wan Bissaka style lockout full back.