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AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:36 pm Kudus, Paquetta, Rice, Bowen... How do you even compare anything Dyche has done when he's never had access to such quality?

I'd be fairly certain he'd have that team in a similar position to Moyes. As for silverware who knows, it's not like Moyes has a history of trophies so it'd suggest a half decent manager with honed ideas could probably at least be in with a chance.

so how are we working this then? are we taking points off moyes because he managed to identify and sign better players?, west ham arent exactly flying since moyes left either

Granite wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:57 pm Like comparing apples and oranges. Moyes spent half a billion on players in his time at West Ham. We’ve had Jack Harrison on loan. Twice.

imagine if moyes had spent that half a billion we spunked up the wall on absolute garbage on the likes of iwobi gylfi and bolasey tosun etc etc, i dont think we would be in the position we find ourselves now

Shogun wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:43 pm Gone downhill since you ditched the denim and fingering

Halcyon days

HANNU wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:01 pm so how are we working this then? are we taking points off moyes because he managed to identify and sign better players?, west ham arent exactly flying since moyes left either

It's just not a comparison anyone can make imo... Dyche has never had the resources available to identify and buy such players.

Moyes had a fantastic set of players and because he's a competent coach did well with them. Dyche has never had that opportunity, not because of his ability to identify better players, but because he's managed Burnley and a financially crippled Everton.

HANNU wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:41 pm that would be me




and i stand by it still, moyes is a much better manager end of

if you want to have a fight about it i will be in the park 5:30 tonight, if you're not there i will tell everyone you're a chicken

I'll start clucking now, I'm a lover not a fighter.

AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:43 pm It's just not a comparison anyone can make imo... Dyche has never had the resources available to identify and buy such players.

Moyes had a fantastic set of players and because he's a competent coach did well with them. Dyche has never had that opportunity, not because of his ability to identify better players, but because he's managed Burnley and a financially crippled Everton.

moyes also managed a financially crippled everton that were odds on to religated when he took over tho, got us regularly in the top 5-8 places, moyes didnt just inherit these players at west ham he signed them they was a solidly bottom half team when he took over

moyes is light years ahead of dyche its not even close

Can we just call this month's Moyes v Dyche debate a draw and knock it on the head? It's like Groundhog Day on here at times.

Gash wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 8:07 pm Can we just call this month's Moyes v Dyche debate a draw and knock it on the head? It's like Groundhog Day on here at times.

No

HANNU wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:01 pm so how are we working this then? are we taking points off moyes because he managed to identify and sign better players?, west ham arent exactly flying since moyes left either

There is a budgetting issue with this. I doubt young and Harrison are here because they are the most talented players dyche managed to identify

HANNU wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 8:02 pm moyes also managed a financially crippled everton that were odds on to religated when he took over tho, got us regularly in the top 5-8 places, moyes didnt just inherit these players at west ham he signed them they was a solidly bottom half team when he took over

moyes is light years ahead of dyche its not even close

Was a different time. The financial gap is wider than ever.

777Kidnappings wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 8:47 pm There is a budgetting issue with this. I doubt young and Harrison are here because they are the most talented players dyche managed to identify

i imagine dyche can identify more talented players, unfortunately they do not want to play for him, there was at least 2 that sited the teams play style as to why they rejected us in the summer, dont ask me for names i cant remember who they are one was a winger from lyon i think

HANNU wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:05 pm …absolute garbage on the likes of iwobi…

Wash your mouth out with soap and prepare for a visit from the ghost of @brap2 over Hallowe’en. You’re doomed!

Thought Iwobi looked pretty good at the weekend like. Silva is a much better manager than Dyche though tbf.

Mouse wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:24 pm Wash your mouth out with soap and prepare for a visit from the ghost of @brap2 over Hallowe’en. You’re doomed!

i will not, ive called out his weird infatuation with iwobi many times,
its embarrassing he scored the other day he is such a nothing player,
does a nice dribble once a match but no real end product
6 goals from 123 league matches for us proves the point, for someone regarded as a creative player he only had 11 assists in that time as well

According to transfermarkt:

6 goals and 12 assists in 123 matches with us
7 goals and 3 assists in 39 matches for Fulham