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Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 12:46 pm
by AjaxAndy
brap2 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 02, 2025 12:10 pm
I must be mad but I quite like what I've seen from Barry.
I don't think we create enough chances for our forwards but I know for a fact both have good instincts in the box.
I look forward to seeing him get on the end of a few through balls or sniffing out the odd chance in the box like I've seen him do in Spain / for France U23.
I will probably start to worry if I feel we are playing well and he continues to get nowhere near the ball in the box. That can't continue forever, he does have to generate some threat, but I'm more than happy for him to get 5-6 starts on the trot now and see if he can show a bit.
Not really arsed about what he does or doesn't do with any service we provide at this point tbh, he's scored elsewhere so I'd expect even if it doesn't click at first here it would eventually.
Absolutely enormous red flags for his jogging about when we don't have the ball, not closing down or pressing, not putting defenders under any pressure or competing in physical battles when the ball does go up to him though.
He'll struggle to get starts under Moyes or most premier league managers in fairness if he's expecting his entire contribution to be getting on the end of through balls or occasionally laying off a pass to someone.
Shouldn't be anywhere near starting given what he's shown so far, but unfortunately neither should Beto which gives us a huge selection problem that I don't think there's an obvious solution to.
Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 12:49 pm
by Cods
Branthwaite jogs about though and he's a decent player.
Messi doesn't track back.
But yeah, maybe we put it down to a bad day at the office. Give him time.
Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 1:50 pm
by Shogun
Cods wrote: ↑Thu Oct 02, 2025 12:49 pm
Branthwaite jogs about though and he's a decent player.
Messi doesn't track back.
But yeah, maybe we put it down to a bad day at the office. Give him time.
Tbf one of those is one of the best players of all time and Messi was decent as well
Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 2:32 pm
by Bluenose91
I think some of the stuff about Barry is way over the top as well.
Only really stand out awful game was Wolves in the cup and he was hung out to dry a bit by the rest of the team selection.
Thought he was good against Brighton and when he come on against Liverpool.
Really want to see him get a consistent run in the team now.
Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 3:05 pm
by PoD1878
I want Barry to start as well, given a good run in the side, so the players can get used to him in a match and he can them. Even be told don't worry you'll make mistakes, you'll have a poor game, you're learning and we have faith in you.
Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 5:57 pm
by The Doc
PoD1878 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 02, 2025 3:05 pm
I want Barry to start as well, given a good run in the side, so the players can get used to him in a match and he can them. Even be told don't worry you'll make mistakes, you'll have a poor game, you're learning and we have faith in you.
Would like to see Ndiaye in the 10 and close to Barry. Time to give Grealish Ndiaye Dibling a whirl.
Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 6:07 pm
by blueToffee
Palace looking good in the Europa Conference, been far the better team. Two up after 60 mins and cruising at the moment. Judging by this our full backs will be in for a time of it.
Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 6:33 pm
by Shogun
If Coleman is fit enough for international duty then he should be starting here. Stop this JOB at RB now.
Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 6:42 pm
by weimaranerblues
Wharton absolutely running the show here
Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 7:09 pm
by Toddacelli
I think the body language brigade are sharpening their clipboards and getting ready to take a run at Barry.
Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 8:45 pm
by brap2
AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 02, 2025 12:46 pm
Not really arsed about what he does or doesn't do with any service we provide at this point tbh, he's scored elsewhere so I'd expect even if it doesn't click at first here it would eventually.
Absolutely enormous red flags for his jogging about when we don't have the ball, not closing down or pressing, not putting defenders under any pressure or competing in physical battles when the ball does go up to him though.
He'll struggle to get starts under Moyes or most premier league managers in fairness if he's expecting his entire contribution to be getting on the end of through balls or occasionally laying off a pass to someone.
Shouldn't be anywhere near starting given what he's shown so far, but unfortunately neither should Beto which gives us a huge selection problem that I don't think there's an obvious solution to.
Does he not press? Honestly have not noticed this personally
Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 8:58 pm
by AjaxAndy
brap2 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 02, 2025 8:45 pm
Does he not press? Honestly have not noticed this personally
Not really no, might run in a vague direction towards an opponent but it's certainly not pressing.
Re: Everton v Crystal Palace Sunday 2pm
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 9:23 pm
by Shogun
Imagine being on a 19 match unbeaten run and losing against Everton. Poor bastards.