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Re: Iliman Ndiaye
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 1:26 pm
by superpull
For the last few seasons (and the next few) our metric for a good signing can only be "Will we make money upon the eventual sale".
Odds look good for PSR Tim
Re: Iliman Ndiaye
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 4:14 pm
by brap2
But we don't know how he'll turn out so can't really say yet
Re: Iliman Ndiaye
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 6:16 pm
by superpull
brap2 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2024 4:14 pm
But we don't know how he'll turn out so can't really say yet
N'Diaye could "Do a Jelavic" after 6 months as well
We can only base this stuff on the moment in which we're having the discussion
Re: Iliman Ndiaye
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:43 pm
by brap2
superpull wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2024 6:16 pm
N'Diaye could "Do a Jelavic" after 6 months as well
We can only base this stuff on the moment in which we're having the discussion
In that case then Tim is a waste of money.
Re: Iliman Ndiaye
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:46 am
by Cods
brap2 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2024 1:11 pm
Right so we can't really be praising him as a good signing yet surely
I think he's shown enough. Good is a relative term in the sense that most of our squad are good enough to remain in the middle patch of the top league, but he really impressed me in his first few games and offers something the others don't, excellent mobility, solid passing and awareness, could learn to fill gaps better (but who says this isnt a small tweak to his game), especially slotting in so quickly to a new team.
Like any of our decent functional players, good, but with potential upside. Not Branthwaite or Pickford level yet.
He's certainly not been a bad signing.
Re: Iliman Ndiaye
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 6:25 am
by AjaxAndy
brap2 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:43 pm
In that case then Tim is a waste of money.
We didn't spend anything on him, I can't remember but it was either the exact same value as Dobbin or we sold Dobbin for a few million more.
You can't waste money you haven't spent.
Re: Iliman Ndiaye
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:49 am
by brap2
Honest to god, the FIGHT some of you will put up to simply not accept the jury's out on a player who was swapped to us for DOBBIN.
He can't get a game and when he plays the side crumbles because he doesn't know how to play cm.
Yes he did some good drops of the shoulder at the start of the year.
Jury. Is. Out.
Re: Iliman Ndiaye
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:02 am
by TheRam
He’s not a waste of money in the grand scheme though.
I imagine he’s the same level as dobbin.
Villa just had a squad good enough to send their championship player on loan whilst we had to play ours and ship three every game.
Re: Iliman Ndiaye
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:11 am
by brap2
TheRam wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:02 am
He’s not a waste of money in the grand scheme though.
I imagine he’s the same level as dobbin.
Villa just had a squad good enough to send their championship player on loan whilst we had to play ours and ship three every game.
So surely SURELY, if we are talking about hits, we have to say the jury's out on him!
Or are we saying no, if he disappears and never plays again because he can't track a runner, he's a hit. Great signing.
Re: Iliman Ndiaye
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:19 am
by TheRam
brap2 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:11 am
So surely SURELY, if we are talking about hits, we have to say the jury's out on him!
Or are we saying no, if he disappears and never plays again because he can't track a runner, he's a hit. Great signing.
Of course.
It’s silly judging signings so early.
I think people are going very early on tim. Baffles me a lot of our fans still can’t see why he’s been dropped.
Re: Iliman Ndiaye
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:24 am
by AjaxAndy
brap2 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:11 am
So surely SURELY, if we are talking about hits, we have to say the jury's out on him!
Or are we saying no, if he disappears and never plays again because he can't track a runner, he's a hit. Great signing.
I think the jury is out on whether he has the goods to become a starter and perform at the required level on a regular basis.
There's no jury out imo on his value for money as a signing though, purely because we didn't pay anything for him and swapped what I'd say is an inferior player for him (plus I think £3m profit but I could be wrong on that).
Re: Iliman Ndiaye
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:36 am
by brap2
Cba
Re: Iliman Ndiaye
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:28 pm
by Kerryblueboy
Big Tim is very raw but might be a good player in time ndayie is very good already producing the goods in a low possession team has three goals already great signing imo
Re: Iliman Ndiaye
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:00 pm
by AjaxAndy
Kerryblueboy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:28 pm
Big Tim is very raw but might be a good player in time ndayie is very good already producing the goods in a low possession team has three goals already great signing imo
Me and my son were doing a dream team game in the car last night and picking purely from current Premier League players who play left side in a 4-2-3-1. I chose Son but when really comparing that position and looking at actually producing telling moments there's not many who actually stack up to Ndaiye this year so far.
I'm not saying he's a better player than Grielish, Doku etc but his actual goal involvements and importance to the team has been pretty incredible in such a short time.
Brilliant player and if he keeps going as he is we may actually struggle to keep hold of him in the near future.
Re: Iliman Ndiaye
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:34 pm
by Dchans
Yeah, was thinking the same that we might be fending off bids from the likes of Newcastle and Arsenal etc next summer if his form continues