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Was he any good?

Did ok.

Considering was his first start, out of position and he was struggling with illness he did fine.

Think he has a decent future in that position.

Great cross for the disallowed goal (if I remember correctly)

Would have loved him to work the keeper with the free kick Lindstrom might have had a better go if he was put on

What was he like at stopping crosses and keeping up with the winger?

sam of the south wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2024 9:48 am What was he like at stopping crosses and keeping up with the winger?

Pretty good, was up against Harvey Barnes and I'd say won that battle.

Put in a peach of a cross for Doucoure's disallowed goal too.

Didn't get forward much though and so it's hard to know if he's actually a good RB overall or just someone who's capable of playing there if the tactics are very defensive.

They did get in on their left a few times in the first half, but I don't think that was Garner's fault particularly. Newcastle overloaded on the right and the centre a few times, and then hit the big switch out to the left and had Barnes/Gordon isolated against Garner, and a few times the same happened on the counter.

Garner did well, and I'm not remotely a fan of his. He definitely has more to offer at right back than in centre mid. If he was to hold down the position for a run of games, I think you might see a bit more in an attacking sense as he adjusts to the role.

Still can't believe the dcl 1 wasn't a penalty and that's apparently the rule. Yes he kicked the defender but purely because he dived between him and the ball as he went to shoot. Surely that's not allowed either

777Kidnappings wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2024 12:05 pm Still can't believe the dcl 1 wasn't a penalty and that's apparently the rule. Yes he kicked the defender but purely because he dived between him and the ball as he went to shoot. Surely that's not allowed either

Doesn’t burn put his leg between dcl and the ball stopping dcl from scoring it’s a nailed on pen for me like I said elsewhere if gana scores the rebound the goal would stand so it should be a pen

777Kidnappings wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2024 12:05 pm Still can't believe the dcl 1 wasn't a penalty and that's apparently the rule. Yes he kicked the defender but purely because he dived between him and the ball as he went to shoot. Surely that's not allowed either

Yeah apparently if a striker is about to shoot you're allowed to put your foot between his swinging leg and the ball, making no attempt to play the latter and ensuring the striker can't either.

It's a foul, it's literally foul play. It's a deliberate action to prevent the striker making contact with the ball.

It's just another stupidly thought out black and white rule the premier league have concocted that actually creates more of an issue than it solves.

It also won't be applied consistently thus meaning some will be given whilst others won't.

Jags was saying afterwards that it's one of those where is the ref gives it then it probably won't be over turned and vice versa... But then we're back to the issue of refs not making a decision on something like this and relying on VAR to do it for them, but the fact they didn't give it means VAR can't then over rule it unless it's clear and obvious... This making the non decision a decision in itself.

I fucking hate it when rules like this come in that actually make no sense whatsoever, but there's at least one every season the premier league decide to implement.

I'd rather have situations were you win or lose based on the ref seeing it or not, than the ref not indicating an issue then being told to look again and have his opinion overruled. I anticipate a VAR with every goal we score now.

AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2024 12:48 pm Yeah apparently if a striker is about to shoot you're allowed to put your foot between his swinging leg and the ball, making no attempt to play the latter and ensuring the striker can't either.

It's a foul, it's literally foul play. It's a deliberate action to prevent the striker making contact with the ball.

It's just another stupidly thought out black and white rule the premier league have concocted that actually creates more of an issue than it solves.

It also won't be applied consistently thus meaning some will be given whilst others won't.

Jags was saying afterwards that it's one of those where is the ref gives it then it probably won't be over turned and vice versa... But then we're back to the issue of refs not making a decision on something like this and relying on VAR to do it for them, but the fact they didn't give it means VAR can't then over rule it unless it's clear and obvious... This making the non decision a decision in itself.

I fucking hate it when rules like this come in that actually make no sense whatsoever, but there's at least one every season the premier league decide to implement.

Yeah, with you all the way on this.
You would think with all the incompetence of var over the years where they can't even get the basics right that bringing in idiotic rules would only make it worse, and it has.
Last night's incident would have been called a foul anywhere else on the field but not in the area, why? it makes no sense whatsoever

The rules are clearly not made by people who play the game. They’re probably also made from a perspective biased towards referees having an easier time.
“Let’s bring in a rule that accounts for this issue so we can make a clear decision and avoid any criticism.”

But when players are coming together physically in all kinds of situations, speeds, sizes, weights, there will never be a one size fits all binary process.

Keep it simple - was it foul play? And then give refs the freedom to interpret. This will invite criticism, but it absolutely fucking should. We all get criticism or feedback in our jobs and we’re expected to use it to get better. Referees should do the same.

On James Garner - did well, grew into the role and benefited from them taking Barnes off who is a v good player.

I don’t understand why dyche didn’t go ballistic and force Paulson to look at the monitor !!
He went to the monitor quick enough for their pen….never even thght about it for ours….
Which basically sums up the train of thought towards Everton by premier league officials this season….