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Re: Burnley v Everton
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2025 5:18 pm
by blueToffee
They didn’t even show a replay of the handball in the match highlights I was watching.
Re: Burnley v Everton
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2025 5:19 pm
by Silas
Shogun wrote: ↑Sat Dec 27, 2025 5:00 pm
Just goes to show that Grealish, KDH and Ndiaye a covering A LOT of cracks in this team, although we knew that anyway.
Mykolenko, O'Brien (at fullback), McNeil, Alcaraz and Beto aren't Premier League standard. I'd throw in Tim as well but he played good today.
Hard to see how we're going to score any goals, let alone pick up any points, without KDH or Illi in the team.
Very very poor result.
Not many teams look decent with their three best players out though
Re: Burnley v Everton
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2025 5:19 pm
by Bumble
Two shite teams. Shite match. Take a point and move on. We all know our failings, no surprises today.
Re: Burnley v Everton
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2025 5:20 pm
by Shogun
Silas wrote: ↑Sat Dec 27, 2025 5:19 pm
Not many teams look decent with their three best players out though
True, I'm just not sure the drop-off is so vast with other clubs when their better players are out. Squad needs a lot of work.
Re: Burnley v Everton
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2025 5:32 pm
by Stumpy
Shogun wrote: ↑Sat Dec 27, 2025 5:09 pm
Club need to be getting every Everton media personality onto that handball. Moyes needs to be screaming about is in his press conferences for the next month.
Sick of these decisions going against us and being ignored and forgotten instantly.
6 wins in 33 matches under Pawson now.
It's not like i think anything of his fellow officials, but i really dislike Pawson, we never get fuck all off him.
I remember him sending off jags at wolves for a clean tackle and jags catching him in the follow through, couldn't wait to get him off.
So 6 from 33 is no shock to me.
And yeah, moyes should be playing hell about getting had over
Re: Burnley v Everton
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2025 5:32 pm
by Bluebridge
blueToffee wrote: ↑Sat Dec 27, 2025 5:06 pm
Agree on most of it, but I think Tim should be getting a bit more slack. He’s been putting in some good performances for a few games now.
Maybe even MoTM today, albeit it was slim pickings.
I think he’s one Moyes has improved and looks PL capable to me now.
Yes PSR just shades it, but such a low bar.
Re: Burnley v Everton
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2025 5:38 pm
by Silas
Shogun wrote: ↑Sat Dec 27, 2025 5:20 pm
True, I'm just not sure the drop-off is so vast with other clubs when their better players are out. Squad needs a lot of work.
Yeah wouldn't disagree with that, first eleven solid enough and plays decent football, players coming in can't
Re: Burnley v Everton
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2025 5:40 pm
by 777Kidnappings
Matt1878 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 27, 2025 5:15 pm
I'm fine with it. We spend hours banging on about the squad issues at the start of the season, then we lose 5-6 key players, we're lacking full backs and we start dropping points, of course we do. But ... we're mid table and picked up a decent point away from home with a paper thin squad. Commitment was there, clean sheet, could have won a fairly even game. The predicted leage position people were calling out at the start of the season was mid-table and currently we're 11th.... 3 points away from the European spots.
Shite gane, but I'm happy, looking forward to getting our best players back and kicking on, i'll see if we can pinch top 8 by the end of the season.
Im fine with the result, its understandable given the team we fielded. The issue for me though is we've done a relatively expensive window and even when everyone is fit all the same problems remain
I see people saying we are on for 50-55 points and thats progress but we were going at that rate the 2nd half of last season. So we've stood still after that transfer window really.
Re: Burnley v Everton
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2025 5:54 pm
by Escalator
blueToffee wrote: ↑Sat Dec 27, 2025 5:18 pm
They didn’t even show a replay of the handball in the match highlights I was watching.
I haven’t seen it but I was listening to the commentary on Everton live, both Darren Grifiths and Snodin agreed it was not a penalty.
Re: Burnley v Everton
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2025 6:02 pm
by Trowel
blueToffee wrote: ↑Sat Dec 27, 2025 5:06 pm
Agree on most of it, but I think Tim should be getting a bit more slack. He’s been putting in some good performances for a few games now.
Maybe even MoTM today, albeit it was slim pickings.
I think he’s one Moyes has improved and looks PL capable to me now.
Yeah, thought Tim was very good at times today. Will be a solid player in time.
Re: Burnley v Everton
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2025 6:04 pm
by NomadskiEFC
Silas wrote: ↑Sat Dec 27, 2025 5:19 pm
Not many teams look decent with their three best players out though
It's five best players at this point, really.
Re: Burnley v Everton
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2025 6:06 pm
by MayorFarnham
This is what mid table is all about. And mid table at this stage without functioning strikers and actual fullbacks all season is a feather in Moyes's cap.
Re: Burnley v Everton
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2025 6:11 pm
by Gary1878
No Gana, Branthwaite, N’Diaye, KDH or Grealish or a right back today. That’s half a first XI to fill and trying to replace your best players is always tough. But nevertheless shows a massive gulf in quality within the squad.
If we want to challenge for Europe and play in more competitions, then squad depth has to be a priority. You can’t drop from Grealish to McNeil and expect to compete.
Moyes bringing on Patterson must have hurt. Literally the last senior outfield player he had at his disposal.
Re: Burnley v Everton
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2025 6:33 pm
by Goaljira
From a surface level view its a disappointing result against a poor side.
But when you look at the starting XI there are maybe 3 or 4 who we'd want in our ideal XI. Half of them wouldn't even be on the bench.
Pickford is one.
We want new full backs.
Neither of the starting CBs would be if you take Branthwaite and JOB as the future.
Then maybe Garner playing in CM with Gana and KDH in front, or Dibling on the right with N'Diaye in the 10 if KDH moves back.
Beto can get in the bin
There's still so much to do with this squad its just going to be a case of just accepting disappointment in the interim.
Re: Burnley v Everton
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2025 6:42 pm
by Paddockoldie
Escalator wrote: ↑Sat Dec 27, 2025 5:54 pm
I haven’t seen it but I was listening to the commentary on Everton live, both Darren Grifiths and Snodin agreed it was not a penalty.
If Tarkowski's was, this was. To not even review it adds to the conspiracy of bias