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Re: Dyche
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:41 pm
by Kerryblueboy
What do we do if he gets 2/3 points from here to Xmas stick with him because it might cost us a years salary to sack him or play championship football in the new stadium
Re: Dyche
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:47 pm
by 777Kidnappings
liamgt wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:13 pm
There were some rumours flying around that he has a clause in his contract that says if we sack him before the end of his contract he is due an additional 12 months salary (approx. £5 million), so if this is indeed the case sacking him now would cost the club around £9 million in severance, plus whatever his support team cost as well.
There was rumours that Keane had photos of him I'm a state of undress and that was why he's getting picked
Re: Dyche
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:48 pm
by 777Kidnappings
Kerryblueboy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:41 pm
What do we do if he gets 2/3 points from here to Xmas stick with him because it might cost us a years salary to sack him or play championship football in the new stadium
I think we just sack him. We'd sack a manager with years on their contract if it wasn't working out. We've sacked many a manager in recent times. It's not that deep.
Re: Dyche
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:51 pm
by TheRam
777Kidnappings wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:48 pm
I think we just sack him. We'd sack a manager with years on their contract if it wasn't working out. We've sacked many a manager in recent times. It's not that deep.
Just good to know you’re totally relaxed about this when you’ve been obsessed about how every single penny is spent.
Re: Dyche
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:28 pm
by 777Kidnappings
TheRam wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:51 pm
Just good to know you’re totally relaxed about this when you’ve been obsessed about how every single penny is spent.
Relaxed about being able to sack a manager for a couple of million (cos no one has a clause where they get more if they are sacked)
Yeah it seems like a good position. We made koeman 1 of the best paid managers in the world. We paid ancelotti even more and he threatened to sue for a top 10 bonus. We paid allardyce for a year we never intended him to work. We paid Watford for a manager they'd already sacked. Paid martinez 8 figures to fuck off. Yeah I'm pretty relaxed about maybe having to pay dyche 2.5m. I know it's hard to believe because I had a problem committing over 50m to gomes or just giving deli Ali about 15 but yeah by comparison I'm pretty relaxed by this.
Go on tell us how Holgates 70k a week is just the going rate for a great prospect or that brands is a great negotiator. Interesting what people can be pretty relaxed about
Re: Dyche
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 5:00 pm
by AjaxAndy
We won't sack him and we won't be relegated under him. Despite it being terrible right now we're 10th for points over the past 6 games
That's 9 points and only one defeat... Same points as Spurs and Chelsea.
It's more than Arsenal, Newcastle, Man U, West Ham, Leicester, Villa, Wolves, Ipswich, Palace & Southampton.
We have a tough run of fixtures coming up which means we won't be in the same position over the next 6 games. However if we bump between 10th & 17th in the form table for the rest of the season we won't be in any trouble.
Everyone's saying just how badly it's going but actually the PPG over this over this period has been reasonably good.
The football's shit, we lost to a terrible Southampton side... All that's true, but we've actually picked up a decent number of points despite a majority saying the sky is falling in.
Just need to continue picking up points and we'll be fine... I can't say anyone will enjoy watching it, they probably won't, but we won't be relegated.
Re: Dyche
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 5:33 pm
by Bob Sacamano
These two
Re: Dyche
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 5:34 pm
by Kerryblueboy
AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2024 5:00 pm
We won't sack him and we won't be relegated under him. Despite it being terrible right now we're 10th for points over the past 6 games
That's 9 points and only one defeat... Same points as Spurs and Chelsea.
It's more than Arsenal, Newcastle, Man U, West Ham, Leicester, Villa, Wolves, Ipswich, Palace & Southampton.
We have a tough run of fixtures coming up which means we won't be in the same position over the next 6 games. However if we bump between 10th & 17th in the form table for the rest of the season we won't be in any trouble.
Everyone's saying just how badly it's going but actually the PPG over this over this period has been reasonably good.
The football's shit, we lost to a terrible Southampton side... All that's true, but we've actually picked up a decent number of points despite a majority saying the sky is falling in.
Just need to continue picking up points and we'll be fine... I can't say anyone will enjoy watching it, they probably won't, but we won't be relegated.
All those points have come against lower level teams spurs thumped us Brighton and Bournemouth beat us at home we have the shite united city Chelsea and arsenal to play before Christmas we will get nothing from those playing like we are this attitude that dyche will get us safe is what will cost us big time it’s not the same as last season better teams than Burnley Luton and Sheffield united this year
Re: Dyche
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:42 pm
by AjaxAndy
Kerryblueboy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2024 5:34 pm
All those points have come against lower level teams spurs thumped us Brighton and Bournemouth beat us at home we have the shite united city Chelsea and arsenal to play before Christmas we will get nothing from those playing like we are this attitude that dyche will get us safe is what will cost us big time it’s not the same as last season better teams than Burnley Luton and Sheffield united this year
Yes teams in the bottom half generally take their points against other lower half teams and lose to the better ones... There's nothing shocking in that fact.
We'll probably pick up the odd point against the better teams because of how Dyche sets us up, not many but the way we play generally works at frustrating better teams... The frustrating part for us is when he does it against worse teams.
We need to pick up 4 points from Brentford and Wolves and try get a point against someone else over the next 6 games, maybe 2 draws actually, that puts a team 16th for form if things play out the same as the last 6 in the league.
It's an important run of games, if we lose to Wolves I think it puts him in a massive hole it'd be hard to get out of, win it and take something from Brentford and another team or two and we're looking ok.
Let's see how it pans out, if we don't do well over this run it's hard to see him not being replaced the moment the Friedkins take control.
Re: Dyche
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:17 pm
by TheRam
777Kidnappings wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:28 pm
Relaxed about being able to sack a manager for a couple of million (cos no one has a clause where they get more if they are sacked)
Yeah it seems like a good position. We made koeman 1 of the best paid managers in the world. We paid ancelotti even more and he threatened to sue for a top 10 bonus. We paid allardyce for a year we never intended him to work. We paid Watford for a manager they'd already sacked. Paid martinez 8 figures to fuck off. Yeah I'm pretty relaxed about maybe having to pay dyche 2.5m. I know it's hard to believe because I had a problem committing over 50m to gomes or just giving deli Ali about 15 but yeah by comparison I'm pretty relaxed by this.
Go on tell us how Holgates 70k a week is just the going rate for a great prospect or that brands is a great negotiator. Interesting what people can be pretty relaxed about
You can add Sean dyche to that list.
Top six wages with a remit of just stay in the premier league.
Another in a long list of desperate financial decisions.
Re: Dyche
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:33 pm
by Raptor
TheRam wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:17 pm
You can add Sean dyche to that list.
Top six wages with a remit of just stay in the premier league.
Another in a long list of desperate financial decisions.
I don't have an issue with Dyche wages, I think it's probably fair, and the difference is marginal around that middle pack. Id argue, we are one of the biggest clubs in the league, so we should pay our staff, and manager accordingly, the issue is the remit and the expectations of that role.
In any other industry youd probably performance manage him, as whilst he's technically doing the job is it what you'd expect of an Everton manager, no, it's fucking shit and we need to get HR involved
Re: Dyche
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:24 pm
by UnsyisaRhino
TheRam wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:17 pm
You can add Sean dyche to that list.
Top six wages with a remit of just stay in the premier league.
Another in a long list of desperate financial decisions.
A desperate decision that actually made sense though right? Like we needed someone to come and save the day and he did that, even if he's anti football and terrible for so many reasons, he had a tough job to do, made worse by point deductions, and did that job.
Same can't be said for so many other signings, I wouldn't put him in the same category as dele, tosun, maupay, beto etc
Re: Dyche
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 7:39 am
by Toddacelli
It’s results based really isn’t it?
Keeps us up - money well spent.
Gets us relegated - fucking ridiculous to pay top six wedge for that.
Let’s pick this back up in May.
Re: Dyche
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 7:54 am
by Shogun
"Yeah mate, I've just bought this burger from the van outside"
"How much was it?"
"£500 mate"
"Are you hungry anymore?"
"Nah it did the job"
"Well worth the money then mate"
Re: Dyche
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:33 am
by AjaxAndy
Shogun wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2024 7:54 am
"Yeah mate, I've just bought this burger from the van outside"
"How much was it?"
"£500 mate"
"Are you hungry anymore?"
"Nah it did the job"
"Well worth the money then mate"
If the burger saved you £100,000, financial ruin and a divorce though then yeah it probably would have been worth it.
