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Would have been a decent match for a rapid fullback that that can underlap and overlap. Still, I'm sure Patterson enjoyed watching Young and Mykolenko doing their thing.

Shogun wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 6:13 pm Would have been a decent match for a rapid fullback that that can underlap and overlap. Still, I'm sure Patterson enjoyed watching Young and Mykolenko doing their thing.

Exactly. Against ten fucking men. Fuck Dyche.

AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 5:02 pm We'll never win games if we don't create decent chances to score them... Don't see us beating a rejuvenated Wolves and we'll be lucky to pick up any points in the other games.

I put in the match day thread it's time for Dyche to go, but actually his organisation and way of playing is probably what we need with the fixtures coming up, but once they're out of the way he needs to go.

Please. Your mental gymnastics to defend this guy must have been exhausting. Let it go. He’s shit.

Juanito wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 6:21 pm Please. Your mental gymnastics to defend this guy must have been exhausting. Let it go. He’s shit.

As I've said above there's little to be gained from giving a new manager an impossible run of fixtures, let Dyche grind out a couple of points hopefully and give the new man the winnable fixtures and a chance to get done momentum going from the off.

That's not defending Dyche that's giving the new man a chance to build up some points and a head of steam.

He should he sacked purely based on that Southampton result for me.

AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 6:24 pm As I've said above there's little to be gained from giving a new manager an impossible run of fixtures, let Dyche grind out a couple of points hopefully and give the new man the winnable fixtures and a chance to get done momentum going from the off.

That's not defending Dyche that's giving the new man a chance to build up some points and a head of steam.

On the flip side, new manager bounce could get us something, there’d be no great expectation of the manager and it gives him a few games to try and suss the players out for after the tough games. We don’t want a settling in period beginning with must win games

AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 6:24 pm As I've said above there's little to be gained from giving a new manager an impossible run of fixtures, let Dyche grind out a couple of points hopefully and give the new man the winnable fixtures and a chance to get done momentum going from the off.

That's not defending Dyche that's giving the new man a chance to build up some points and a head of steam.

Grind out a result? Mate we we will get smashed around in every game.

Audrey Horne wrote: Grind out a result? Mate we we will get smashed around in every game.

I think that’s part of the reason why he’ll likely stay, we’ll be pumped no matter what.

Need to time the new manager bounce with the winnable fixtures

StirlingBlue wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:10 pm I think that’s part of the reason why he’ll likely stay, we’ll be pumped no matter what.

Need to time the new manager bounce with the winnable fixtures

Yeah, this is a scary run of fixtures for a new manager.

As usual for the last few years, we're in a no win situation

Has he said anything yet?

Audrey Horne wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:14 pm Has he said anything yet?

Not listened but
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/live/c8jyve474r3t

Is he still gaslighting some people into thinking this is as good as it gets?

Happy with the clean sheet, good point don't lose it he says, I heard

People mock things like the suggestion of Patterson but how many people saw Doucoure being the answer and pivotal under Dyche after he'd been left out entirely by Lampard? How many people saw Mykolenko being a strong enough LB defensively after being rinsed repeatedly under Lampard?

Some players will be more useful under a new manager. Some will be worse. We've got enough attacking options to be seeing more than we are at the moment. Get the best out of Ndiaye and you'll see a massive improvement in others that end of the pitch as well.

I don't think he's going to change anything now, he's not suddenly going to give Patterson games when Young's doing a solid job. He offers very little going forward (he did have a decent cross today at one point) but he's never going to take a man on, get to the bye line and whip a cross in. I'm not saying Patterson would either but we've not seen him for months now so don't really know what he can do anymore but I'd like to think a 23 year old with a bit of pace and technically quite good would be able to offer something going forward.

Dyche is in self preservation mode, he's thinking about his reputation and that's it. Wants to be seen as doing a great job against the odds with one hand tied behind his back. I keep saying it but he's no interest in developing a young player we spent a decent wedge on when he thinks he can rely on Ashley Young. Patterson's just another young player that we've been criminal with their development and he's ended up sitting watching games every week rather then being out playing somewhere.