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Bluebridge wrote: ↑Tue Jan 06, 2026 5:45 am Pony is better than donkey I guess.

Which is about the same as a mule, and a step up from an ass?

Branthwaite made him look better than he actually is, and in a very small sample size, it seems JOB might do as well.

He needs some pace alongside him.

Horses for courses

Bob Sacamano wrote: ↑Mon Jan 05, 2026 10:13 pm I think he’s absolute pony. We’ve had some top class defenders at the club since I started supporting them and watching these two dopey pricks bumping into each other each week is depressing.

He's reliable, almost never injured, a good pro, people might not like his style of play, but whats he or Michael Keane done to be called a prick, really?

Staggers me the level of some people's dislike for him to be honest.

Matt1878 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 06, 2026 4:43 pm He's reliable, almost never injured, a good pro, people might not like his style of play, but whats he or Michael Keane done to be called a prick, really?

Staggers me the level of some people's dislike for him to be honest.

I don’t mind Keane. He can kick a ball in a straight line. Shouldn’t be at the club. But I don’t mind him.

Tarks and Keane have overlapping weaknesses, and the list is getting bigger as Tarks gets slower and older.

They are both solid centre backs that look better when all they need to do is defend. They are both a threat in the box and have chipped in with decent goals here and there.

But it's not a sustainable partnership and yet another problem we could solve if we had a half decent right back.

UnsyisaRhino wrote: ↑Tue Jan 06, 2026 8:14 pm Tarks and Keane have overlapping weaknesses, and the list is getting bigger as Tarks gets slower and older.

They are both solid centre backs that look better when all they need to do is defend. They are both a threat in the box and have chipped in with decent goals here and there.

But it's not a sustainable partnership and yet another problem we could solve if we had a half decent right back.

Both need to be next to a younger partner with pace and mobility.

Needs the armband taking off him

Talking shit for me

Come on Brap! Even if you think he was in the wrong and it’s a sending off - you have to realise that most of this outrage from our side is around the inconsistency of ‘violent conduct’?

The calf-stamp by Hwang gets nothing and a slight hair tug gets a sending off and a 3 match ban. That’s why folk are angry.

Toddacelli wrote: ↑Thu Jan 08, 2026 8:17 am Come on Brap! Even if you think he was in the wrong and it’s a sending off - you have to realise that most of this outrage from our side is around the inconsistency of ‘violent conduct’?

The calf-stamp by Hwang gets nothing and a slight hair tug gets a sending off and a 3 match ban. That’s why folk are angry.

"Keaneos hand has to go on his back" is bullshit.

He pulled the lads hair. He'd get knocked out for it in Sunday league and he's been sent off for it here.

You can't poke eyes, spit, pull hair. Knew 100% he was gone when I saw what he had done.

Yeah tbh I think at full speed the hwang one doesn't look as bad. When I saw the slow mo i thought if he got a red it doesn't get overturned but be surprised if he gets one.

brap2 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 08, 2026 9:11 am "Keaneos hand has to go on his back" is bullshit.

He pulled the lads hair. He'd get knocked out for it in Sunday league and he's been sent off for it here.

You can't poke eyes, spit, pull hair. Knew 100% he was gone when I saw what he had done.

Yeah tbh I think at full speed the hwang one doesn't look as bad. When I saw the slow mo i thought if he got a red it doesn't get overturned but be surprised if he gets one.

I agree on him going. I wouldn’t have give it myself, but violent conduct 3 match ban it isn’t.

And as a CB, if you’re competing for a header from behind, you absolutely need a hand or arm on the other player. You’re going face-first towards the back of their head and if they are going to flick on, you stand a very real chance of getting your face smashed in unless you control the distance between you both. I’ve seen it happen and likely so have you. Hand on the back - yes. Grabbing shirt, hair, whatever - not so much.

Toddacelli wrote: ↑Thu Jan 08, 2026 10:19 am I agree on him going. I wouldn’t have give it myself, but violent conduct 3 match ban it isn’t.

And as a CB, if you’re competing for a header from behind, you absolutely need a hand or arm on the other player. You’re going face-first towards the back of their head and if they are going to flick on, you stand a very real chance of getting your face smashed in unless you control the distance between you both. I’ve seen it happen and likely so have you. Hand on the back - yes. Grabbing shirt, hair, whatever - not so much.

You're supposed to defend with your hands behind your back now. Also, if possible avoid breathing on the attacker in the box, for fear of blowing them over for a penalty.

Less defenders, more fussball men really, shuffling around stiffly, being an inconvenience.

Lads what on earth are we talking about? He's pulled his fucking hair?

I think he's jumped legitimately for the ball and put his hand on the opponents back... I don't think he set out to pull his hair, but I do think that once his hand touched it something took over where his brain went 'hmm let's just give this a little tug while we're here'.

The issue is there's nothing in the rule book for this other than violent conduct, so in that case they should have looked at it and said 'it's a foul but clearly not violent conduct so ref should give him a ticking off and be told not to do it again'. Instead they did the opposite of that and decided to just pretend it fit the violent conduct category and send him off, which makes no sense.