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Re: The Rebuild

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 9:54 am
by brap2

Re: The Rebuild

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 9:54 am
by Audrey Horne
Ugh fuck sake shut up!!

Re: The Rebuild

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 9:56 am
by Shogun
He's right. Good on him for putting it back on the club and the transfer team. We can all see what's happening and it's nowhere near good enough.

Re: The Rebuild

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:07 am
by Cozzie
Been a disaster hasn't it really.

As long as we have some in before the Roma game and absolutely categorically have them in before Leeds it MIGHT be salvageable.

We've had so much time to plan and knowing we would have a thread bare squad though it's absolute madness how slowly we have been operating.

I said it in another post but we could have one of them weeks/few days where we sign 3 or 4 out of the blue but not looking too likely is it?

So sick of trying to get excited about new regimes and false dawns.

I'm confident we will get the business done needed before the deadline but it will likely cost us a slow start.

You just wonder if we will ever, even by accident, just one day stumble upon something and just get it right for once.

Re: The Rebuild

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:14 am
by NickNack
Don’t see a problem with what Moyes is saying..I’d be more worried if he said we were fine.

As for affecting possible transfers any potential selling club would have to either come from a galaxy far far away or have the footballing nous of a Moshiri to not be aware we need a load of players in. Can’t see what Moyes is saying affects that

I’m beginning to wonder if all is well between Moyes and our ‘recruitment department’

Re: The Rebuild

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:21 am
by Gary1878
It can’t be left the way it is. We now need players to come in, regardless of whether they fit into our long term plans.

We do not have a squad capable of a season of Premier League football. We will get injuries and suspensions and with the numbers the way they are, we will be down to the bare bones in no time and having to delve into the youth teams to cover.

The next 2 weeks are crucial. I am actually becoming increasingly concerned that relegation will be back on the agenda. There is not much time left to sort this ever-deepening crisis out.

Re: The Rebuild

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:23 am
by Granite
The club were leaking a load of stuff to The Athletic before/early in the window about how the club wouldn’t be taken for a ride on transfer fees or hand out silly wages. Highly commendable, but probably not very realistic.

You have to pay a club’s asking price. If you want to snare a player like Fofana, you’re probably going to have to pay him more than you intended to think he’s worth at this moment in his career. We have no leverage; you pay or you don’t get.

Our business and the way we’ve conducted ourselves seems very reminiscent of Utd, last summer. Bullish, defiant and determined to not look like the mugs we’ve proven to be in previous years, but unable to get deals done.

Not that you should “overpay” or put the club in jeopardy, but the going rate is just that. Ipswich turned done £35m for Omari Hutchinson. The market is just a bit mad.

That’s not to say you can’t get the odd bargain and where our current squad is, there’s simply no excuse for getting some affordable cover in.

But ambition does mean coughing up money and if we don’t have it/have the appetite to spend it, what’s the point?

Re: The Rebuild

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:27 am
by The Doc
There should be a reaction from the club here surely. Emergency meetings, 24 hour pushing, hourly updates to whoever is running the show. Can't just let it drift.

Re: The Rebuild

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:34 am
by Gary1878
The Doc wrote: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:27 am There should be a reaction from the club here surely. Emergency meetings, 24 hour pushing, hourly updates to whoever is running the show. Can't just let it drift.
This should be considered a crisis within the club. We don’t know how or why this has been allowed to happen, but to not have a working squad at this stage of pre-season, 2 weeks before the season starts is as bad as it gets on the playing side.

Us as fans can stay a little bit more relaxed with an optimistic outlook, but for Moyes to publicly say the things he has tells you volumes.

It’s time for those brought into the club in the transfer team to earn their wages.

Re: The Rebuild

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:46 am
by toffee_scot
This feels like it has been one of the worst preseason preparations since that year Roberto Martinez was enjoying covering the World Cup with ESPN

Re: The Rebuild

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:59 am
by Escalator
Tarks now saying it was good to get some minutes last night and he is HOPEFUL that he may be ready for the start of the season!

Re: The Rebuild

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 11:10 am
by Bob Sacamano
Yesterday was the first pre-season game I’ve seen. My main takeaway from watching is that I’m sick of seeing some of the same old dopey pricks aimlessly fumble around making a show of themselves.

Re: The Rebuild

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 11:25 am
by fxceltic
its almost as though we pushed the whole scouting and player operation out the door recently, I said at the time thelwell had done an OK job is very hard circumstances and should have got another year while we stabilised

I also never get the following statements you see kicking around each season

"the league has got stronger" - has it? what evidence have we for that before its even begun?

"everyone around us has strengthened" - have they? or have they bought players that we have no idea yet whether they will work out or not, same as every year? I must have missed a few years where every signing every club but us makes works out just great

Re: The Rebuild

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 11:43 am
by sam of the south
Moyes may have not got on with Thelwell, or maybe the new owners just wanted a full new broom sweep.

Re: The Rebuild

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 11:44 am
by fxceltic
sam of the south wrote: Thu Jul 31, 2025 11:43 am Moyes may have not got on with Thelwell, or maybe the new owners just wanted a full new broom sweep.
yeah Im sure there were reasons, but right now looks a poor choice, and I felt it was unfair quite apart from anything else, at the time