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fxceltic wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:40 am Im broadly in agreement over Thelwells performance, Im not really sure what people expect him to do over and above what he has done.

I'll start by sayng not every call hes made has been correct, or made sense, Maupay being the classic example. But show me a DoF who has bought no duds?

But on the other hand: Hes got to identify players who can do a job, are free or can be bought on Klarna, and will come to us in our situation ahead of competitors.
The biggest issue of those that its very difficult to do anything about, is the lack of cash and payment terms.

So people pin Beto on him, for example (and I think with different service theres maybe a goalscorer in there), but he somehow managed to buy a top Italian league striker who was capable of double figures in said league, for no money up front, on the never never.

On outgoings, hes done really well. We are vulnerable as people know we needed cash, and hes got fees in that have been enough. This is the area most in his direct control, and hes done pretty good work IMO.

Im not sure turnover here in the summer is helpful, Id extend his contract by a further year and see what he can do with Davey, who is a good mover in the transfer markets himself.

777Kidnappings wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:59 pm Really struggling to see which signings and sales have been real successes here. The highlights seem to be bland players for market value and letting the contracts of big earners run out.

Not sure how anyone can claim with a straight face he's done a good job. The only real defence of him is the list of players we've apparently tried to sign but failed.

His best 5 deals probably consist of 3 or 4 players none of us like

kramer wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:12 pm We’ve been in on a number of players who’ve opted for clubs with less fucked financial situations and performed well (e.g. a whole bunch of the players propping up Forest’s success).

It’s a rough gig getting beaten to everyone good in your price range because you can’t pay any money up front, your owner would light the club on fire to get rid of it, and your manager hates attacking.

I think he’s done okay in spite of all of that even if his best work is mediocre. We’ve added players who can be on the pitch in PL matches on reasonable contracts instead of guys the manager’s worked with at Newcastle. It’s subtle but it’s important because one of them leads you straight to the bottom of the Championship.

If the PSR chains loosen a little we might be able to add some actual good players. Even the Friedkins having cash to pay fees up front will help.

Seems to be doing some interesting things at the academy level as well.

I don’t know. Maybe things have been so indefensibly bad that a mediocre job looks good to me but here we are.

The Doc wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:34 am The list of players that we reportedly chased but they turned us down is testament that we've identified the right type:

Kudus
Guimares
Luis Diaz
Pedro

When his job is buying new players and moving players on with huge wages, its hard to judge with the extreme financial restrictions that no other club has had to deal with in the league.

Trowel wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 10:58 am Chermiti deserves a couple of years before being judged. It could be said that, in our circumstances, Thelwell shouldn't have invested so much in a young player, but he's shown plenty of potential on the rare occasions we've seen him.