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Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:03 pm
by Shogun
https://twitter.com/The1878s/status/1726935597653053537

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:17 pm
by Cereal Killer
I think a lot of our covid excuses were accepted seeing as we had about ยฃ400m actual losses across the three years that were reviewed, yet only just went over the 3 year limit

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:20 pm
by superpull
Cereal Killer wrote: โ†‘Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:17 pm I think a lot of our covid excuses were accepted seeing as we had about ยฃ400m actual losses across the three years that were reviewed, yet only just went over the 3 year limit
That's true, to be fair.

It's a long old report and i've not read it all. But i've been unable to tally up our declared figures with the ยฃ19.5m figure we went over by.
So you are likely correct.

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:35 pm
by Toffee1
https://twitter.com/Shivutd4/status/1726936623898923468 A United fan calling for their supporters to join in on Sunday.

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:07 pm
by Phillyt
So it turns out any compo claims will be heard by the same panel, including the fella who is basically Leeds solicitor. ๐Ÿ˜‚

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:43 pm
by Escalator
Shogun wrote: โ†‘Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:03 pm https://twitter.com/The1878s/status/1726935597653053537
TBH think this will cause us more problems than itโ€™s worth, PL will lash out with further review of last three years etc. should have left this until after the review at least and if they hadnโ€™t reduced the penalty then lash out.

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:06 pm
by superpull
Escla wrote: โ†‘Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:43 pm
Shogun wrote: โ†‘Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:03 pm https://twitter.com/The1878s/status/1726935597653053537
TBH think this will cause us more problems than itโ€™s worth, PL will lash out with further review of last three years etc. should have left this until after the review at least and if they hadnโ€™t reduced the penalty then lash out.

I mean, according to their own rules - why would they just absolve us of any wrong doing for the last 3 years?

Surely that's incoming anyway isnt it? Or do they get to pick and choose what is punished when?

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:06 pm
by Bluedylan1
Nice to see that the Prem clubs have voted that clubs can continue to loan players from other clubs under the same ownership in foreign countries.

All fair and above board. Nothing to see here.

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:08 pm
by superpull
Phillyt wrote: โ†‘Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:07 pm So it turns out any compo claims will be heard by the same panel, including the fella who is basically Leeds solicitor. ๐Ÿ˜‚
Surely any actual compensation would be a civil matter and would be taken via the UK civil courts?
An independent panel cannot rule on a tort between parties?

edit,

well, they COULD rule on it, but there would be no legal reason for us to pay it.

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:12 pm
by Escalator
superpull wrote: โ†‘Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:08 pm
Phillyt wrote: โ†‘Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:07 pm So it turns out any compo claims will be heard by the same panel, including the fella who is basically Leeds solicitor. ๐Ÿ˜‚
Surely any actual compensation would be a civil matter and would be taken via the UK civil courts?
An independent panel cannot rule on a tort between parties?

edit,

well, they COULD rule on it, but there would be no legal reason for us to pay it.
Think you are spot on with that.

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:13 pm
by Escalator
superpull wrote: โ†‘Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:06 pm
Escla wrote: โ†‘Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:43 pm
Shogun wrote: โ†‘Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:03 pm https://twitter.com/The1878s/status/1726935597653053537
TBH think this will cause us more problems than itโ€™s worth, PL will lash out with further review of last three years etc. should have left this until after the review at least and if they hadnโ€™t reduced the penalty then lash out.

I mean, according to their own rules - why would they just absolve us of any wrong doing for the last 3 years?

Surely that's incoming anyway isnt it? Or do they get to pick and choose what is punished when?
Seems that way.

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:39 pm
by Shogun
Bluedylan1 wrote: โ†‘Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:06 pm Nice to see that the Prem clubs have voted that clubs can continue to loan players from other clubs under the same ownership in foreign countries.

All fair and above board. Nothing to see here.
Who does that benefit outside of Man City, Newcastle and Chelsea?

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:41 pm
by Fynci
Phillyt wrote: โ†‘Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:07 pm So it turns out any compo claims will be heard by the same panel, including the fella who is basically Leeds solicitor. ๐Ÿ˜‚
So letโ€™s plan on it being -19. Long road ahead.

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:42 pm
by Bluedylan1
Shogun wrote: โ†‘Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:39 pm
Bluedylan1 wrote: โ†‘Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:06 pm Nice to see that the Prem clubs have voted that clubs can continue to loan players from other clubs under the same ownership in foreign countries.

All fair and above board. Nothing to see here.
Who does that benefit outside of Man City, Newcastle and Chelsea?
Yeah off the top of my head, they are the three in question. Maybe some of the others are looking at multi club ownership.

They got 7 votes in their favour, so I would assume that's the normal Big 6 plus Newcastle.

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:43 pm
by Escalator
Shogun wrote: โ†‘Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:39 pm
Bluedylan1 wrote: โ†‘Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:06 pm Nice to see that the Prem clubs have voted that clubs can continue to loan players from other clubs under the same ownership in foreign countries.

All fair and above board. Nothing to see here.
Who does that benefit outside of Man City, Newcastle and Chelsea?
I guess that should 777 succeed in their takeover then we could benefit from their other five clubs ?