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Re: Sunderland v Everton

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:12 am
by AjaxAndy
Toddacelli wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 8:11 am Please be brave Moyes!
Moyes brave away from home against a team in good form? It'd be some turn up for the books if it happens.

Let's just hope the utter shite we've been served up recently has pushed him to breaking point and he goes full reverse Moyes and we see a whole host of positive changes.

Re: Sunderland v Everton

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:32 am
by Cereal Killer
AjaxAndy wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:12 am Moyes brave away from home against a team in good form? It'd be some turn up for the books if it happens.

Let's just hope the utter shite we've been served up recently has pushed him to breaking point and he goes full reverse Moyes and we see a whole host of positive changes.
“We’d take a 0-0”

Re: Sunderland v Everton

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:54 am
by Granite
Their press worries me. They come flying out the blocks with intensity and purpose. Night game with the crowd. Feel like I’ve seen this film before.

Re: Sunderland v Everton

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 11:04 am
by Kerryblueboy
The only hope of beating their press is to play guys comfortable on the ball like Rohl and charly can’t be depending on gana and garner to take it and turn but if we know Moyes the team will show very little changes

Re: Sunderland v Everton

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 11:26 am
by 777Kidnappings
Be much the same team, we'll still have the same issues. Wingers being doubled up on, no pace, not winning second balls, ball not sticking upfront, no creativity in midfield. We'll get beat and the knives will be out for moyes. Another season of at best nothingness at worst the misery of a relegation battle

Re: Sunderland v Everton

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 11:38 am
by 4evablu
will be leaving shortly for the game would like to see:
pickford
garner tarks keane myko
gueye rohl
Charlie
ndiaye Grealish

Re: Sunderland v Everton

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 11:40 am
by Big Nevs Vaz
It doesn't sound like he intends to move or drop JOB. Add that to our very limited left back and we are once again just way too predictable.
Relying on goals coming from transitions or a piece of magic from Grealish or Ndiaye.

Re: Sunderland v Everton

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 1:30 pm
by brap2
Imo the most Moyesian move to make is to play Röhl somewhere but somewhere we absolutely don't want. Like in the 10 or next to James Garner and drop Gueye.

Re: Sunderland v Everton

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 1:37 pm
by Shogun
I don't see what some other Evertonians see in James Garner whatsoever. Feel like everyone is gaslighting me that he's some brilliant midfielder who never hides and drives the team forward... Not the James Garner I watch

Re: Sunderland v Everton

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 1:45 pm
by brap2
Shabite

Re: Sunderland v Everton

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 1:47 pm
by Sir Stealth
Shogun wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 1:37 pm I don't see what some other Evertonians see in James Garner whatsoever. Feel like everyone is gaslighting me that he's some brilliant midfielder who never hides and drives the team forward... Not the James Garner I watch
Doesn’t everyone hate him and just want him in at right back cos we’ve got no better options there?

Re: Sunderland v Everton

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 1:48 pm
by Shogun
Sir Stealth wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 1:47 pm Doesn’t everyone hate him and just want him in at right back cos we’ve got no better options there?
Only here where we're all dead smart

Everywhere else seems to want to drop Gana

Re: Sunderland v Everton

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 1:55 pm
by brap2
Obviously I'm a never drop Gana ever guy but, could argue Gana having a poor year and looks leggy.

Garner a bad crab but he does put a shift in.

Re: Sunderland v Everton

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 2:16 pm
by Sir Stealth
brap2 wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 1:55 pm Obviously I'm a never drop Gana ever guy but, could argue Gana having a poor year and looks leggy.

Garner a bad crab but he does put a shift in.
I do wonder whether Gana could adapt his game a bit and be more of a classic holding midfielder - he kind of did it against Brighton as he was alongside Iroegbunam and I thought he did it pretty well.

Chasing after everything which he usually does isn’t always the most beneficial thing for the team, especially from a shape perspective as we do seem to love to create gaps for the opposition to play through, which this tends to support

I’d be up for seeing him do this and play alongside Röhl with Garner pushed out to right back

Re: Sunderland v Everton

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 2:17 pm
by UnsyisaRhino
Shogun wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 1:37 pm I don't see what some other Evertonians see in James Garner whatsoever. Feel like everyone is gaslighting me that he's some brilliant midfielder who never hides and drives the team forward... Not the James Garner I watch
I don't think (outside of the match thread where he played that through ball for Beto's goal) I've seen much of that kind of sentiment on here to be honest.

He works hard, covers for others well, and reads the game well enough to spot dangerous situations and then does everything he can to stop it. He's reliable and predictable and does the basics well, which we all know moyes values, but he is the safest person on planet earth on the ball and lacks the physicality to really impose himself on any midfield battle.

When the other team have the ball he's a 7/10, when we have it I'd say he's 5 on a good day.