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				Re: Sunderland v Everton
				Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:12 am
				by AjaxAndy
				Toddacelli wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 8:11 am
Please be brave Moyes!
 
Moyes brave away from home against a team in good form?  It'd be some turn up for the books if it happens.
Let's just hope the utter shite we've been served up recently has pushed him to breaking point and he goes full reverse Moyes and we see a whole host of positive changes.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Sunderland v Everton
				Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:32 am
				by Cereal Killer
				AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:12 am
Moyes brave away from home against a team in good form?  It'd be some turn up for the books if it happens.
Let's just hope the utter shite we've been served up recently has pushed him to breaking point and he goes full reverse Moyes and we see a whole host of positive changes.
 
“We’d take a 0-0”
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Sunderland v Everton
				Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:54 am
				by Granite
				Their press worries me. They come flying  out the blocks with intensity and purpose. Night game with the crowd. Feel like I’ve seen this film before.
			 
			
					
				Re: Sunderland v Everton
				Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 11:04 am
				by Kerryblueboy
				The only hope of beating their press is to play guys comfortable on the ball like Rohl and charly can’t be depending on gana and garner to take it and turn but if we know Moyes the team will show very little changes
			 
			
					
				Re: Sunderland v Everton
				Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 11:26 am
				by 777Kidnappings
				Be much the same team, we'll still have the same issues. Wingers being doubled up on, no pace, not winning second balls, ball not sticking upfront, no creativity in midfield. We'll get beat and the knives will be out for moyes. Another season of at best nothingness at worst the misery of a relegation battle
			 
			
					
				Re: Sunderland v Everton
				Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 11:38 am
				by 4evablu
				will be leaving shortly for the game would like to see:
                pickford
 garner tarks keane myko
             gueye      rohl
                  Charlie
          ndiaye        Grealish
			 
			
					
				Re: Sunderland v Everton
				Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 11:40 am
				by Big Nevs Vaz
				It doesn't sound like he intends to move or drop JOB. Add that to our very limited left back and we are once again just way too predictable.
Relying on goals coming from transitions or a piece of magic from Grealish or Ndiaye.
			 
			
					
				Re: Sunderland v Everton
				Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 1:30 pm
				by brap2
				Imo the most Moyesian move to make is to play Röhl somewhere but somewhere we absolutely don't want. Like in the 10 or next to James Garner and drop Gueye.
			 
			
					
				Re: Sunderland v Everton
				Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 1:37 pm
				by Shogun
				I don't see what some other Evertonians see in James Garner whatsoever. Feel like everyone is gaslighting me that he's some brilliant midfielder who never hides and drives the team forward... Not the James Garner I watch
			 
			
					
				Re: Sunderland v Everton
				Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 1:45 pm
				by brap2
				Shabite
			 
			
					
				Re: Sunderland v Everton
				Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 1:47 pm
				by Sir Stealth
				Shogun wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 1:37 pm
I don't see what some other Evertonians see in James Garner whatsoever. Feel like everyone is gaslighting me that he's some brilliant midfielder who never hides and drives the team forward... Not the James Garner I watch
 
Doesn’t everyone hate him and just want him in at right back cos we’ve got no better options there?
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Sunderland v Everton
				Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 1:48 pm
				by Shogun
				Sir Stealth wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 1:47 pm
Doesn’t everyone hate him and just want him in at right back cos we’ve got no better options there?
 
Only here where we're all dead smart
Everywhere else seems to want to drop Gana
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Sunderland v Everton
				Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 1:55 pm
				by brap2
				Obviously I'm a never drop Gana ever guy but, could argue Gana having a poor year and looks leggy. 
Garner a bad crab but he does put a shift in.
			 
			
					
				Re: Sunderland v Everton
				Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 2:16 pm
				by Sir Stealth
				brap2 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 1:55 pm
Obviously I'm a never drop Gana ever guy but, could argue Gana having a poor year and looks leggy. 
Garner a bad crab but he does put a shift in.
 
I do wonder whether Gana could adapt his game a bit and be more of a classic holding midfielder - he kind of did it against Brighton as he was alongside Iroegbunam and I thought he did it pretty well.
Chasing after everything which he usually does isn’t always the most beneficial thing for the team, especially from a shape perspective as we do seem to love to create gaps for the opposition to play through, which this tends to support
I’d be up for seeing him do this and play alongside Röhl with Garner pushed out to right back
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Sunderland v Everton
				Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 2:17 pm
				by UnsyisaRhino
				Shogun wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 1:37 pm
I don't see what some other Evertonians see in James Garner whatsoever. Feel like everyone is gaslighting me that he's some brilliant midfielder who never hides and drives the team forward... Not the James Garner I watch
 
I don't think (outside of the match thread where he played that through ball for Beto's goal) I've seen much of that kind of sentiment on here to be honest.
He works hard, covers for others well, and reads the game well enough to spot dangerous situations and then does everything he can to stop it.  He's reliable and predictable and does the basics well, which we all know moyes values, but he is the safest person on planet earth on the ball and lacks the physicality to really impose himself on any midfield battle.
When the other team have the ball he's a 7/10, when we have it I'd say he's 5 on a good day.