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Re: Dyche - HE'S GONE
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:41 pm
by Bob Sacamano
777Kidnappings wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:38 pm
There's always easy money on the table when a manager leaves. Theres been easy money on the table for everyone who's done a shit job here recently
Dyche probably got a couple of million. Martinez got 16 didn't he. Ancelotti threatened to sue us for his top 10 bonus. They get what they get.
Also when he was dismissed everyone was delighted. Couldn't wait to go to the match. Now everyone is upset he didn't take 1 more game?
That final paragraph is not what I’m saying (and from what I understand anyone else is saying). I think you’re purposefully being obtuse or your reading comprehension skills need a looking into.
Re: Dyche - HE'S GONE
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:14 pm
by Robioto
AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:36 pm
Got a message off my Sunderland supporting mate yesterday absolutely perplexed we'd got rid of Dyche. Just shows how it's impossible for anyone really to understand another club to the one they don't support.
I think it's generally seen that if you're in a relegation dogfight you need someone like Dyche to get the team battling hard and being tough to beat, but what people fail to recognise that you don't need to thing that's got you in to that mess in the first place. You can't just stick with a failing manager because he's done well in that situation before.
I had a torrent of moronic messages from my non Everton mates yesterday. It just shows they get all their opinions from Talksport and Sky. Great way to tell which of your mates have genuine football knowledge though.
Re: Dyche - HE'S GONE
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:26 pm
by TheRam
777Kidnappings wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:34 pm
When was he found to be phoning it in. Before the last 2 games we had reasonable form
Also half the forum are saying the likes of dcl now and onana before weren't performing because they couldn't be arsed with the tactics. Saying it's justified. Which is it?
Well, the last two games then where we hardly had a shot at goal.
In general, I think he’s phoned it in this season. You disagree, that’s fine.
I didn’t say that about DCL or Onana so i don’t know why you’re mentioning that, or how it’s relevant to what I posted?
Re: Dyche - HE'S GONE
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:16 pm
by AjaxAndy
NomadskiEFC wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:48 pm
I'm not going to hold this season too much against him, I'll remember Dyche more for his immense stoic calm handling of the absolute calamity of last season with points deductions and the rest of the chaos when everyone else it seemed was losing their heads at times.
Last season needed someone like Dyche and we came out of it ok, and that means I won't feel too negative about him, even with this seasons shocking performances and (for the most part) results.
He is a million miles away from the likes of Benitez in 'ex managers I'd like to throw a dart at', and I wish him well as we move forward to hopefully better times.
Wtf is this?
Read the room man, you can't be posting level headed comments like this on here right now. Quick call someone a cunt and redeem yourself, can be another poster, Dyche or Moyes... But this is a completely unacceptable post otherwise
Re: Dyche - HE'S GONE
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:19 pm
by biziclop
TheRam wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:26 pm
In general, I think he’s phoned it in this season. You disagree, that’s fine.
I genuinely don't think he has, I think he's just plain run out of steam. Which to be fair looks exactly the same from the outside. It happens, we move on.
Re: Dyche - HE'S GONE
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:37 pm
by brap2
Scarily bad take and frankly has me scared
Are we a hopeless case??
Re: Dyche - HE'S GONE
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:43 pm
by Toddacelli
Yup in the immortal words of The Dream Warriors - “Do not feed the alligators, they will bite you.”
Re: Dyche - HE'S GONE
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:46 pm
by TheRam
brap2 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:37 pm
Scarily bad take and frankly has me scared
Are we a hopeless case??
Think that’s just a terrible take that needs to be ignore.
He got 12th last season with largely the same group of players.
Re: Dyche - HE'S GONE
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:48 pm
by Bluedylan1
brap2 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:37 pm
Scarily bad take and frankly has me scared
Are we a hopeless case??
I mean it ignores that he told the new owners that he'd taken the club as far as he could, despite them offering to support him, so it's the not the smartest take.
It's what you'd expect from a stats/analytics guy who doesn't look at the human and political context.
Re: Dyche - HE'S GONE
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:51 pm
by kramer
Wonder what he’s basing “best coaching jobs” on.
Re: Dyche - HE'S GONE
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:52 pm
by Toddacelli
777Kidnappings wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:12 pm
Oh and your scribble of Michael Keane was a bigger crime against the club than the combined efforts of moshiri, kenwright and dyche. You in the spirit of you feeling you're allowed to say whatever you like to people.
Mate, she asked you questions. She made no accusations. You tore into who she is. Have a bit of awareness.
Your contrary stance and continued recycling arguments is odd and does make people want to ask why. When she said she was baffled why you seem to deliberately misunderstand, that was her crediting you with intelligence and wanting to know your reasons.
Am I mansplaining here now? Fml
Re: Dyche - HE'S GONE
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:54 pm
by Gary1878
brap2 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:37 pm
Scarily bad take and frankly has me scared
Are we a hopeless case??
There is no basis or stats to back up that line of thinking. It’s click bait.
If you look at Dyche from either an aesthetic point of view or statistically, both arguments fall down before they even get started. Anyone saying any different knows nothing about the club or Dyche.
Re: Dyche - HE'S GONE
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:57 pm
by Toddacelli
kramer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:51 pm
Wonder what he’s basing “best coaching jobs” on.
Yep and also - let’s please include his words “this season” in that as well, because without them I think you could argue he’s had a positive impact on our defence.
Put them back in though…
Re: Dyche - HE'S GONE
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:05 pm
by NickNack
He’s got a very appropriate word in his user name
Re: Dyche - HE'S GONE
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:35 pm
by Gash
Best coaching job this season then goes on to mention Dyche alongside the guy we were comfortably beating with about 4 minutes of normal time left only to get pumped 3-2.
