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Re: The Rebuild
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:39 am
by StirlingBlue
Shogun wrote:I know you never know how good a player is but I'm looking at Sunderland buying a RB in Mukiele for £12m this week and wondering what the fuck our excuse is.
£12m. Nearly 150 appearances for Leipzig over 4 years before moving to PSG where he played 45 times in a couple of years. On loan at Leverkusen last season where he played 24 matches.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordi_Mukiele
Meanwhile we're scrambling around like there are no RBs available.
Mukiele is a RB in the O’Brien vein where he’s basically a CB who couldn’t make it there.
He’s also 27 and coming off the back of four big injuries in the last two years - there’s a reason he’s going to Sunderland
Re: The Rebuild
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:39 am
by 777Kidnappings
TheRam wrote: ↑Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:25 am
I think moyes is wanting premier league experience, whilst the rest of the recruitment team want players from abroad for value, meaning we’re caught in the middle going for nobody because nobody can agree on who to go for.
We can't really afford premier league prices. Feels like premier league experience is a requirement for them who aren't confident in their judgement of a players quality
Re: The Rebuild
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:41 am
by StirlingBlue
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We can't really afford premier league prices. Feels like premier league experience is a requirement for them who aren't confident in their judgement of a players quality
Which makes total sense if you’re in Moyes shoes and saw who we’ve spent the last few years buying and loaning
Re: The Rebuild
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:48 am
by Shogun
StirlingBlue wrote: ↑Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:39 am
Mukiele is a RB in the O’Brien vein where he’s basically a CB who couldn’t make it there.
He’s also 27 and coming off the back of four big injuries in the last two years - there’s a reason he’s going to Sunderland
You say that but I'd be happy with pretty much every signing Sunderland have made. Diarra, Adingra, Xhaka, Reinildo... All massively improve us. I'm sure we'll enjoy Harrison though, if he'll still come back to us.
Re: The Rebuild
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:55 am
by Bluebridge
Talking of moles, whatever happened to Shorty and Django?
Re: The Rebuild
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:05 am
by TheRam
StirlingBlue wrote: ↑Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:41 am
Which makes total sense if you’re in Moyes shoes and saw who we’ve spent the last few years buying and loaning
Loads of who had premier league experience.
Was actually a massive issue with our recruitment wasn’t it? Signing old, premier league experienced players for no value.
Don’t recall us ever not doing this over the last decade tbh.
Re: The Rebuild
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:19 am
by TheRam
Noah Okafor to Leeds for less than £20m.
Left winger like but full of pace and can play upfront.
Teams around us and below us continue to do good business.
Hope we join in soon.
Re: The Rebuild
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:31 am
by Robioto
Shogun wrote: ↑Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:22 am
I know you never know how good a player is but I'm looking at Sunderland buying a RB in Mukiele for £12m this week and wondering what the fuck our excuse is.
£12m. Nearly 150 appearances for Leipzig over 4 years before moving to PSG where he played 45 times in a couple of years. On loan at Leverkusen last season where he played 24 matches.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordi_Mukiele
Meanwhile we're scrambling around like there are no RBs available.
I was shocked to see him move to Sunderland and not a peep saying we were interested. He's a good player.
Re: The Rebuild
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:37 am
by Cereal Killer
TheRam wrote: ↑Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:25 am
I think moyes is wanting premier league experience, whilst the rest of the recruitment team want players from abroad for value, meaning we’re caught in the middle going for nobody because nobody can agree on who to go for.
Thrown his toys out the pram when we wouldn’t sign Coufal
Re: The Rebuild
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:50 am
by The Doc
I'd take Coufal now.
Re: The Rebuild
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 12:10 pm
by Juanito
The Doc wrote: ↑Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:50 am
I'd take Coufal now.
Was thinking this today, would defo take him right now.
Re: The Rebuild
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 12:38 pm
by Evertonian in NC
Panic signings are worse than no signings, and I'll stand by that. We absolutely have to break the chains of that kind of operation.
If Moyes was going to insist on the Coufals of the world, then I've no idea why we even brought him back for this season.
But hey, at least Grealish is super duper famous. That's always been such a winning move for us.
Re: The Rebuild
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 12:59 pm
by Cozzie
Thought Coufal had moved to Hoffenheim?
Re: The Rebuild
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 12:59 pm
by OldEnglandToffee
The Doc wrote: ↑Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:50 am
I'd take Coufal now.
You know what they say. Coufal is better than fuck all
Re: The Rebuild
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 1:00 pm
by Cereal Killer
TheRam wrote: ↑Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:19 am
Noah Okafor to Leeds for less than £20m.
Left winger like but full of pace and can play upfront.
Teams around us and below us continue to do good business.
Hope we join in soon.
£20m for someone who’s started 7 games in 2 years? And has never played as a regular starter? We’d be up in arms!