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Re: Beto
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 11:46 am
by AndSeel
I really don't want us selling Beto and DCL this summer.
Big press on us getting the replacement signing right.
Re: Beto
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 9:21 am
by Bluedylan1
Re: Beto
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 9:33 am
by brap2
Would be massive for us if we could get some change out of him.
Re: Beto
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 11:09 am
by AndSeel
I still reckon if he plays every week he would be sound. He has enough about him to torment a defence. Huge, strong and quick.
Just needs to be playing every week to get form.
Re: Beto
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 12:05 pm
by brap2
Would help if he wasn't quite as crap but listen we've all got a cross to bear.
Re: Beto
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 1:14 pm
by Toddacelli
Confidence game, especially for strikers. Make him number one (if Dom goes), cuddle him and tell him he’s the best thing since sliced bread. Tell him to go out there and terrorise defenders. Over the course of a season I think we’ll see closer to DCL numbers than many expect.
Re: Beto
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 2:32 pm
by MmmBlueBranthwaite
Re: Beto
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 2:46 pm
by Blueomar
Well, if needs more material for motivation he should read this board.
Re: Beto
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 2:54 pm
by StirlingBlue
Toddacelli wrote:Confidence game, especially for strikers. Make him number one (if Dom goes), cuddle him and tell him he’s the best thing since sliced bread. Tell him to go out there and terrorise defenders. Over the course of a season I think we’ll see closer to DCL numbers than many expect.
Getting close to DCL in terms of goals/assists isn’t very hard and I reckon even Chermiti could do it if he was the main man for a season.
Replacing DCL’s running, hold up and pressing whilst also hitting his numbers is the actual difficult task and I don’t think Beto can do it.
If he’s not going to contribute as much as DCL outside of goals then he needs to score a lot more to justify it
Re: Beto
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:20 pm
by Bluedylan1
I think Beto is just a different player to DCL, and we just need to understand them differently as players.
I think we have these templates in our heads as to what players ''should be'' based on their appearance, and they don't always match.
Despite appearances, Beto has more in common with Michael Owen than he does DCL. He wants to play on the shoulder and run in behind to through balls. But because he's tall and broad shouldered we sort of want to see him as a Drogba-like battering ram, and he's just not that.
Also, at Everton we have this tradition of big powerful strikers, with towering headers and it very much informs our idea of what a striker ''should be'' a lot of the time.
We're going to be continually frustrated with Beto as a fanbase if we continue to use him like DCL, chasing lost causes and pounding long aerial balls into him. If the manager wants to use his abilities, he needs to find ways of playing accessing through balls for him to run in behind defences, whether through on goal, or wider into the channels. And if Dyche is not going to be able to do that, then we've bought the wrong profile of player for our setup.
Re: Beto
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:30 pm
by AjaxAndy
Blueomar wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 2:46 pm
Well, if needs more material for motivation he should read this board.
Happy to have a chat with him on the phone at any point
Re: Beto
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:35 pm
by Kerryblueboy
Where is this confidence in Beto coming from
Re: Beto
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 5:13 pm
by toffee_scot
Hoping it’ll work for him this season at Everton but if Dyche can’t get him to play in a suitable system then he might need to move on.
Re: Beto
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 5:22 pm
by TheRam
Kerryblueboy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:35 pm
Where is this confidence in Beto coming from
Has the attributes, it’s just about putting them together.
Re: Beto
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 7:20 pm
by MmmBlueBranthwaite
TheRam wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 5:22 pm
Has the attributes, it’s just about putting them together.
It’s not Lego.
If it is, he's missing the ball control and goal scorer bricks.