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Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2026 1:16 pm
by AjaxAndy
Bob Sacamano wrote: ↑Mon Jan 05, 2026 12:08 pm
We’re not paying a fullback £3mill a year to sit on the bench and then buying a first choice LB on more money.
Surely it's less likely that we release him and split £25m - £30m over 2 LBs and then also still have to pay the new backup LB wages too?
From a financial point of view releasing him costs more than retaining unless I'm missing something here?
Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2026 1:18 pm
by TheRam
We won’t be starting the next season with two left backs.
It’s either mykolenko goes and we replace him, or he stays and that’s it.
We’ll then have cover in garner and Brathwaite should we need it.
Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2026 1:19 pm
by Cozzie
So is everyone flat out just giving up on Aznou?
Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2026 1:33 pm
by TheRam
Will take years for him to to be a regular.
Will probably sell him before then I imagine
Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2026 1:51 pm
by sam of the south
Yeah, it is mad to me how Moyes had a top 4 attacking fb (and at least top 6 defensive fb) in Baines and a top 6 defensive and attacking fb in Coleman in his last stint, yet he seems fine with O’Brien and Mykolenko, who are both relegation level players in an attacking sense, and barely top half defensively.
I know we went after Tete initially, but after he decided to stay with Fulham that was it, and that suggests he thought that JOB was good enough at rb, which he absolutely isn’t.
Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2026 1:52 pm
by AjaxAndy
TheRam wrote: ↑Mon Jan 05, 2026 1:18 pm
We won’t be starting the next season with two left backs.
It’s either mykolenko goes and we replace him, or he stays and that’s it.
We’ll then have cover in garner and Brathwaite should we need it.
Maybe true, not sure it's good squad building to release a perfectly serviceable backup on a free, or re-sign him as a starter when he's clearly not good enough though.
We need a starter and an actual backup if we want to progress as a club. Same on the other side too, although I don't mind Garner doing the backup job for another year, he's pretty good there but not really comfortable on the left.
Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2026 4:59 pm
by Bumble
sam of the south wrote: ↑Mon Jan 05, 2026 1:51 pm
Yeah, it is mad to me how Moyes had a top 4 attacking fb (and at least top 6 defensive fb) in Baines and a top 6 defensive and attacking fb in Coleman in his last stint, yet he seems fine with O’Brien and Mykolenko, who are both relegation level players in an attacking sense, and barely top half defensively.
I know we went after Tete initially, but after he decided to stay with Fulham that was it, and that suggests he thought that JOB was good enough at rb, which he absolutely isn’t.
He doesn't have the run of the show like he did in his first stint so his voice on transfers isn't the only one. I can't imagine he would have been completely onside with blowing a large proportion of our budget on Dibling when we had gaping holes elsewhere but he's had to suck it up and make do for now.
Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2026 5:01 pm
by sam of the south
Bumble wrote: ↑Mon Jan 05, 2026 4:59 pm
He doesn't have the run of the show like he did in his first stint so his voice on transfers isn't the only one. I can't imagine he would have been completely onside with blowing a large proportion of our budget on Dibling when we had gaping holes elsewhere but he's had to suck it up and make do for now.
Rumour has it he wanted Coufal and Soucek, though so
Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2026 5:05 pm
by Bumble
sam of the south wrote: ↑Mon Jan 05, 2026 5:01 pm
Rumour has it he wanted Coufal and Soucek, though so
Yeh I can believe it. Positives and negatives to the new of working...
Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2026 6:27 pm
by sam of the south
Bumble wrote: ↑Mon Jan 05, 2026 5:05 pm
Yeh I can believe it. Positives and negatives to the new of working...
Although tbf, 75 year-old Coufal would’ve been better than poor JOB out there; I think he’s got a goal and 3 assists in the Bundesliga so far this season
Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2026 7:39 pm
by AjaxAndy
Bumble wrote: ↑Mon Jan 05, 2026 4:59 pm
He doesn't have the run of the show like he did in his first stint so his voice on transfers isn't the only one. I can't imagine he would have been completely onside with blowing a large proportion of our budget on Dibling when we had gaping holes elsewhere but he's had to suck it up and make do for now.
Yep and I'm glad he didn't have carte blanche, he left West Ham in quite a poor state and long term we needed to give him some of these players and tell him to develop them.
Reckon he'd have been all over someone like Callum Wilson instead of Barry, which might have been better in the short term but definitely not in the long term.
Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2026 9:17 pm
by dazfrancis
Just stick Baines on the left with Grealish.
Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2026 9:28 pm
by Bluebridge
dazfrancis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 05, 2026 9:17 pm
Just stick Baines on the left with Grealish.
Could you imagine that, we were so blessed with Baines and Coleman.
Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2026 1:03 pm
by Silas
Bluebridge wrote: ↑Mon Jan 05, 2026 9:28 pm
Could you imagine that, we were so blessed with Baines and Coleman.
Would settle for an Oviedo and Hibbert at this point
Re: Mykolenko
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2026 3:56 pm
by Nicco
brap2 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 05, 2026 10:06 am
Would rather the two of them showed the door and forced Moyes hand
Has worked like a charm on RB las couple of windows...
