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Re: England National Team
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:35 pm
by biziclop
That was a clear handball.
Re: England National Team
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:45 pm
by biziclop
It's probably still not too late to sack him and reinstate Carsley.
Re: England National Team
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:55 pm
by NickNack
Roy Keane would have waded into Pickford if he’d have conceded that second goal - not a word about Henderson
Re: England National Team
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:59 pm
by Escalator
Made up for Gana and Illy, first African team to beat England !
Re: England National Team
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:53 pm
by AndSeel
Standard stuff from England. Throw some good players together and they think they will win. Happens over and over again.
Senegal have a solid side, knew what to do and executed it perfectly.
Re: England National Team
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:49 pm
by TheRam
If you kept Carsley you would have had a manager who knows about the players from the senior team to the under 21s, and put in a style of play that suits them.
The results and performances probably would have been a lot better and he would have built on the very good job Southgate did.
Tuchel will just rip it all apart.
It still might work. The reality is England probably only need to play well in three games during his reign to win the World Cup and he has plenty of time to know what players he can trust to perform in those games.
I feel like the international game is moving on from these managers though.
Last two managers to win the World Cup and euros were promoted from within, with very little reputation. Southgate himself got us to two finals with very little reputation. Joachim lowe as well.
Just don’t think going all in on a big name manager who’s not from the country works in the international game.
Genuinely can’t think of one?
Re: England National Team
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:55 pm
by Shogun
Same country obviously but Mancini for Italy in Euro 2021 was the sort of type of manager. Very much only played well in the tournament and even then they didn't play that well, just won when it mattered.
Re: England National Team
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 6:25 am
by Sir Stealth
Can definitely see a 2014 style World Cup nightmare for England next year, which is tragic given how many talented players we have.
Tuchel looks like such a bad fit. He’s not a good times guy and the feelgood factor in a tournament camp has got to be there
McNulty in his BBC piece said that Southgate in the last euros had England giving big moments but not big performances and I think it will be more of the same next summer - hoping individual pieces of brilliance, when players go rogue and take it into their own hands (Bellingham bicycle kick, Saka solo run and shot, Watkins late dramatics from the last tournament) save the day
Spain to me look light years ahead of England, and they aren’t the only ones. But they have a style of play that they stick to and bigger difference makers than we do as well
Re: England National Team
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 9:50 am
by Cereal Killer
TheRam wrote: ↑Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:49 pm
If you kept Carsley you would have had a manager who knows about the players from the senior team to the under 21s, and put in a style of play that suits them.
The results and performances probably would have been a lot better and he would have built on the very good job Southgate did.
Tuchel will just rip it all apart.
It still might work. The reality is England probably only need to play well in three games during his reign to win the World Cup and he has plenty of time to know what players he can trust to perform in those games.
I feel like the international game is moving on from these managers though.
Last two managers to win the World Cup and euros were promoted from within, with very little reputation. Southgate himself got us to two finals with very little reputation. Joachim lowe as well.
Just don’t think going all in on a big name manager who’s not from the country works in the international game.
Genuinely can’t think of one?
Poch at the US… oh wait…
Ermmmm, Carlo at Brazil!
Re: England National Team
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 8:19 pm
by weimaranerblues
U21 playing some good stuff , on ch4
Re: England National Team
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 6:16 am
by Cereal Killer
weimaranerblues wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 8:19 pm
U21 playing some good stuff , on ch4
Actual movement off the ball, pressing, quick forward passing, was a good watch
Re: England National Team
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:38 am
by Evertonfc15
yeah........... his is how england first team shld be playing - are watching mr tuchel
and they are also missing a couple of first team choices too like delap
Re: England National Team
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2025 12:20 pm
by Cereal Killer
Just bizarre again
Re: England National Team
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2025 1:24 pm
by Shogun
Re: England National Team
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2025 1:50 pm
by Goaljira
Shite.