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Re: Sunderland v Everton
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:00 pm
by Fynci
Can't think of a single positive from that game.
Morale must be at a low, and all of the new players will be on their way out (or wanting to leave) in no time.
Dibling was an expensive gamble, and it was silly to pay that amount of cash in the first place. Moyes seemingly doesn't fancy him, which makes it even more of a waste. Barry missed a sitter, but he should have stayed on until at least the 70-75 minute mark. His confidence was poor already, and now it will be rock bottom.
I'm not sure where we go from here.
Re: Sunderland v Everton
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:00 pm
by blueToffee
Seems like Moyes is getting some flack, but that first 30 was great I thought and we should've buried if not for some awful finishing. We probably would've been able to cruise a bit more at that point and I doubt there would've been many complaints.
After the miss, we shat the bed a bit and yes should've made different choices but really that game should've been pretty much done. I don't know how you account for some of these players at times.
Re: Sunderland v Everton
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:00 pm
by Goaljira
TheRam wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:56 pm
We’re five points off the bottom three.
Things will have to get a lot worse for us to be in any real trouble.
Be 2 points off 18th by the time we kick off at the weekend.
Re: Sunderland v Everton
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:00 pm
by Audrey Horne
2 wins
It's not much like
Re: Sunderland v Everton
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:00 pm
by TrevorSteven
Turning point of the game is Barrys miss. Too bad for the kid
Re: Sunderland v Everton
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:01 pm
by blueToffee
Fynci wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:00 pm
Can't think of a single positive from that game.
Morale must be at a low, and all of the new players will be on their way out (or wanting to leave) in no time.
Dibling was an expensive gamble, and it was silly to pay that amount of cash in the first place. Moyes seemingly doesn't fancy him, which makes it even more of a waste.
Barry missed a sitter, but he should have stayed on until at least the 70-75 minute mark. His confidence was poor already, and now it will be rock bottom.
I'm not sure where we go from here.
I would've had him off at half time. He got about 60 mins which given he was on a yellow was pretty generous.
It's a shame about his confidence admittedly, but I was surprised he came out for the 2nd half.
Re: Sunderland v Everton
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:02 pm
by 777Kidnappings
Beto has to be the worst targetman ever. Hes not within 25 yards of most of the long balls. Not his game and the service is poor but id struggle to not get closer to some of them balls.
Honestly we are absolutely in with a chance of relegation now. The last transfer window was criminal
Re: Sunderland v Everton
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:03 pm
by Risky
Glad I decided to drink tonight. Was a great first 25 mins apart from the missed chances, but after that it was the grimness I expected.
Just astounding how we can go from the front foot to putting ourselves under pressure and looking like most of the team haven't played together before in their careers.
That McNeil substitution was absolutely disgusting too.
Re: Sunderland v Everton
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:03 pm
by Audrey Horne
blueToffee wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:00 pm
Seems like Moyes is getting some flack, but that first 30 was great I thought and we should've buried if not for some awful finishing. We probably would've been able to cruise a bit more at that point and I doubt there would've been many complaints.
After the miss, we shat the bed a bit and yes should've made different choices but really that game should've been pretty much done. I don't know how you account for some of these players at times.
How can he not get flack??
As a manager you can't be so tactically inept during games.
It's insane that he thinks putting McNeil on is a good decision!! It's absolutely baffling
It's horrendous tactics to put beto on.
It's horrendous tactics to keep garner and kdh on the pitch.
The players are shit too but some of them shouldn't even be on the pitch.
Rohl on the bench, Dibling on the bench.
Alcaraz given 10 mins. Pathetic
Re: Sunderland v Everton
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:03 pm
by Bally
Beto is a fucking ghost ball goes through him like he's not there , he's fucking shite
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Re: Sunderland v Everton
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:04 pm
by Bluebridge
Paddockoldie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:58 pm
That was dire, frustrating and a show case of Moye's limitations. Bringing 2 subs on who made us worse takes some doing. I think Barry will want out now and can see him leaving January. We are too pedestrian and poor making decisions, which Charly showed perfectly with that 2 v1... I'd give Moyes til January to show he's still the right guy
I’m hoping Barry wants out, said all along, he’s not a footballer. If nothing else I’d loan him out in January, regardless of us getting a replacement.
Re: Sunderland v Everton
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:04 pm
by TrevorSteven
blueToffee wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:00 pm
Seems like Moyes is getting some flack, but that first 30 was great I thought and we should've buried if not for some awful finishing. We probably would've been able to cruise a bit more at that point and I doubt there would've been many complaints.
After the miss, we shat the bed a bit and yes should've made different choices but really that game should've been pretty much done. I don't know how you account for some of these players at times.
I think you are spot on and big part of football is psychological and we lost momentum with that miss - that points out that our players need to get a better and more positive mentality. They are not winners.
Re: Sunderland v Everton
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:05 pm
by Trowel
What a terrible team we are to watch. I can't think of any other PL team who panic in possession as much as we do, then sit back to invite pressure off the ball, and yet it's been that way for years and years. There's a deep-seated losing mentality that has to be eradicated asap.
Re: Sunderland v Everton
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:06 pm
by Gary1878
Fynci wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:00 pm
Can't think of a single positive from that game.
Morale must be at a low, and all of the new players will be on their way out (or wanting to leave) in no time.
Dibling was an expensive gamble, and it was silly to pay that amount of cash in the first place. Moyes seemingly doesn't fancy him, which makes it even more of a waste. Barry missed a sitter, but he should have stayed on until at least the 70-75 minute mark. His confidence was poor already, and now it will be rock bottom.
I'm not sure where we go from here.
Drew 1-1 - could have lost
Defensively we were sound. They threw long balls at them all night and we stood firm. It was only a deflected goal that beat Pickford (as usual, it was Tark's foot)
We dominated the first 30 minutes. Should have been 3-0 and out of sight.
I get the negativity of watching that utter shite for the last 60 minutes, but there are positives. Chin up.
Re: Sunderland v Everton
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:07 pm
by NomadskiEFC
We really had an awful summer transfer window didn’t we.
Almost Moshiri esque.