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Re: Iliman Ndiaye

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 5:00 pm
by Bob Sacamano
Baines?! Excuse me?!

Re: Iliman Ndiaye

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 5:39 pm
by Trowel
Goaljira wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 4:15 pm Not this summer, but next he could be with the right coaching and a way of playing that plays to his strengths. Looks to be a perfect replacement for Bernardo Silva down the line to me.
Silva replacement was what I was thinking too, but Ndiaye probably plays more like (Villa) Grealish.

There's the benchmark for any fee :D

Re: Iliman Ndiaye

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 5:44 pm
by Toddacelli
AjaxAndy wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 3:37 pm I'm not convinced he's actually quite at the level he'd need to be in order to get a big money move tbh. He's a fantastic player but I couldn't imagine an Arsenal or Man City coming in for him as he's not elite level.

I think he's probably the perfect player for us and we're the perfect club for him. If we can become more of a mid table team and then push towards Europe over 3 seasons it'll be hard to find a team who'll offer him more than we can in terms of level that he'd be playing at.
He’s quick-thinking, quick-footed and super-creative. He’s not on the same wavelength as anyone else in this Everton team, in fact, he’s playing a different sport to most of them.

Stick him in a team where everyone around him is his level or higher and watch him level-up instantly imo.

Re: Iliman Ndiaye

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 5:50 pm
by AjaxAndy
Bob Sacamano wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 5:00 pm Baines?! Excuse me?!
Haha yeah tbf not sure why I included the best left back in world football at the time in there, but for whatever reason he was our player despite being fucking amazing

Re: Iliman Ndiaye

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 5:50 pm
by Audrey Horne
AjaxAndy wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 4:57 pm
I'm just hoping he's sort of our new Baines, Cahill, Jagielka type where he's utterly boss for us but maybe not quite good enough for a team challenging for leagues and champions leagues.
WTF?!!

Re: Iliman Ndiaye

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 5:54 pm
by Silas
AjaxAndy wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 4:57 pm Fair enough, I think like most players when you aren't a club challenging for honours it's best to try enjoy them while they are ours. If he's good enough he'll get snapped up which would be a shame but also means he's probably given us many amazing moments which is not a bad thing at all.

I'm just hoping he's sort of our new Baines, Cahill, Jagielka type where he's utterly boss for us but maybe not quite good enough for a team challenging for leagues and champions leagues.
All three of them could have played at a higher level than us tbh. Miracle they didn't

Re: Iliman Ndiaye

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 6:01 pm
by TheRam
Baines could have but not jags and cahill.

I agree that ndiaye won’t be going to an elite team.

He’s brilliant but he’s too off the cuff to play for an elite team. If he went to a city or arsenal he’d spend his time there out on the left playing one twos with the inverted regista full back.

Could see him going to someone like Villa or spurs for around £40m though but could see him staying here for a long time if we manage to be good at football again.

Re: Iliman Ndiaye

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 6:40 pm
by AjaxAndy
TheRam wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 6:01 pm Baines could have but not jags and cahill.

I agree that ndiaye won’t be going to an elite team.

He’s brilliant but he’s too off the cuff to play for an elite team. If he went to a city or arsenal he’d spend his time there out on the left playing one twos with the inverted regista full back.

Could see him going to someone like Villa or spurs for around £40m though but could see him staying here for a long time if we manage to be good at football again.
Yeah Arsenal were linked with Jags a few times but his passing was never good enough for them to actually sign him.

Similarly Cahill was fantastic but he wasn't creative enough for an elite team, if you compare him to someone like Lampard he was a level or two below, but that doesn't take anything away from how good he was for us.

Can the forum please make note that me and Ram have agreed on something for the first time in about 6 months haha.

Re: Iliman Ndiaye

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 7:06 pm
by sam of the south
AjaxAndy wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 6:40 pm Yeah Arsenal were linked with Jags a few times but his passing was never good enough for them to actually sign him.

Similarly Cahill was fantastic but he wasn't creative enough for an elite team, if you compare him to someone like Lampard he was a level or two below, but that doesn't take anything away from how good he was for us.

Can the forum please make note that me and Ram have agreed on something for the first time in about 6 months haha.
You are each others mutual stopped clock

Re: Iliman Ndiaye

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 7:28 pm
by Cods
Bluedylan1 wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 10:34 am Won 9/11 duels on the ground at the weekend.

And you can see from his goal the way his tenacity and quick feet wins the ball back. It looks lucky as fuck, but it's not because he contests every ball and that will get you opportunities if you do it enough.

Not comparing him as a player, but it's something Suarez used to do. Get the ricochets off defenders legs or get the quick nutmeg and away with the ball.

Scrappy little street baller.
He's got the Futsal moves, and brilliant reaction time. He sees it like Neo from the matrix.

Re: Iliman Ndiaye

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 12:38 pm
by NomadskiEFC
Loved Jags to bits. Wouldn't have swapped him for anyone.

Harumph.

Re: Iliman Ndiaye

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 12:46 pm
by Shogun
Think people overrate the standard at the top teams. Gakpo and Diaz play regularly enough for the team currently top of the league. Trossard and Martinelli are regularly getting starts and minutes for the team in 2nd.

Ndiaye has shown throughout his career that he's got the end product and even under Dyche I think he was our top scorer this season. Scored 3 in a row now we're playing 21st century football and won't be surprised if he gets another 8-10 goals before the end of the season in the league.

He's a brilliant footballer.

Re: Iliman Ndiaye

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 1:03 pm
by AjaxAndy
Shogun wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 12:46 pm Think people overrate the standard at the top teams. Gakpo and Diaz play regularly enough for the team currently top of the league. Trossard and Martinelli are regularly getting starts and minutes for the team in 2nd.

Ndiaye has shown throughout his career that he's got the end product and even under Dyche I think he was our top scorer this season. Scored 3 in a row now we're playing 21st century football and won't be surprised if he gets another 8-10 goals before the end of the season in the league.

He's a brilliant footballer.
I'd be very surprised if he got another 8-10 goals in 15 games, he's done well to get on the score sheet 3 in a row but that's not likely sustainable.

I actually think if he did do that we'd lose him in the summer so as good as it would be maybe just another 3-5 would do nicely... Which I think is about right.

I don't want to come across as saying he's not really good, I just think he's one of those players who lacks that extra 10% to be at an elite club. He's a bit of a budget Salah, got great skill and end product but lacks that rapid pace to elevate his game to that real top level, or that creative passing range to make up for it.

He's a street footballer, he's great to watch, he has an excellent attitude. Probably my favourite current player... I hope he's here for a long time.

Re: Iliman Ndiaye

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 1:20 pm
by brap2
If he hits ten prem goals I'd be really pleased.

Re: Iliman Ndiaye

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:36 pm
by 74Blue
I couldn't give a fuck whether he's the real deal or a budget Salbutomol Kid. I'm just enjoying watching an absolute baller strutting his stuff on the pitch. We pay to be entertained and Ndiaye is providing entertainment.