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Re: Carlos Alcaraz

Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 2:14 pm
by 777Kidnappings
Granite wrote: Sat May 31, 2025 2:05 pm A 2 year deal is shite for amortisation, too.

Perplexing, tbh.
Read the other week that amortisation renews with a contract renewal. Never heard that before does anyone know if it's even true

Re: Carlos Alcaraz

Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 2:17 pm
by AjaxAndy
Yeah 2 years is baffling, can't for the life of me understand what's gone on there?!

Re: Carlos Alcaraz

Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 2:18 pm
by StirlingBlue
https://sportwitness.co.uk/contractual- ... -decision/

Seems like there’s an option for us to trigger a third year

Re: Carlos Alcaraz

Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 2:48 pm
by brap2
TheRam wrote: Sat May 31, 2025 12:52 pm This is his 5th club at the age of 22.

His agents obviously like moving him about which is common with South Americans.
No brainer.

Although hopefully we benefit when they flip him again in 12 months

Re: Carlos Alcaraz

Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 2:50 pm
by Shogun
If he settles and does well then he'll likely want to stay, don't think we have to worry too much about the length of contract. I doubt he's going to have a Cole Palmer of a 12 months and be sniffing out a title contending team in 12 months.

Re: Carlos Alcaraz

Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 3:18 pm
by The Doc
No retainer.

Re: Carlos Alcaraz

Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 3:59 pm
by superpull
777Kidnappings wrote: Sat May 31, 2025 2:14 pm Read the other week that amortisation renews with a contract renewal. Never heard that before does anyone know if it's even true
You're already at zero when the contract runs out, so there'd be nothing to continue amortising?

I suppose, at a push, we could put Alcaraz's (for example) payment over 3 years because it's our option to add the third year.
It just means that third year we're risking paying for an asset that isn't on the books.

Re: Carlos Alcaraz

Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 4:37 pm
by Bluedylan1
Yeah Paddy Boyland has said the club have an option for an additional year.

Re: Carlos Alcaraz

Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 6:36 pm
by Matt1878
Really glad this is done. Started 9 league games but only 1 at home (Ipswich) I think. Away form was good in the run in too, I hope he gets more starts at home next year.

Re: Carlos Alcaraz

Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 6:41 pm
by 777Kidnappings
superpull wrote: Sat May 31, 2025 3:59 pm You're already at zero when the contract runs out, so there'd be nothing to continue amortising?

I suppose, at a push, we could put Alcaraz's (for example) payment over 3 years because it's our option to add the third year.
It just means that third year we're risking paying for an asset that isn't on the books.

No I read that if you sign someone at 12m over 2 years and then renew after a year with a 5 year contract the 6m remaining would then come on over the new 5 year contract rather than just 1 year at 6m as it would be under the old contract

Re: Carlos Alcaraz

Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 6:42 pm
by Paddockoldie
Pleased with this piece of business. Excited who might be lined up next season

Re: Carlos Alcaraz

Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 6:55 pm
by superpull
777Kidnappings wrote: Sat May 31, 2025 6:41 pm No I read that if you sign someone at 12m over 2 years and then renew after a year with a 5 year contract the 6m remaining would then come on over the new 5 year contract rather than just 1 year at 6m as it would be under the old contract
Yeah, that's feasible actually. If you renew during the contract, what is outstanding can be amortised over the new contract.

Re: Carlos Alcaraz

Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 7:26 pm
by Gary1878
It’s not a huge fee to be amortised - £12m over 2 years is not an issue. And then if you utilise the contract extension of a year, that becomes £6m in the first year and £3m per year for 2 years. Not bad at all.

Getting him for 3 years (if there is an extension option) feels like a decent amount of time and doesn’t tie him or the club down. Good business.

Re: Carlos Alcaraz

Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 7:41 pm
by AjaxAndy
I heard on a podcast he wasn't apparently a Moyes pick and was from the recruitment team so maybe Moysie isn't 100% on him still... Think the shorter contract is a good incentive to make sure Alcaraz stays on the straight and narrow potentially.

Re: Carlos Alcaraz

Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 9:10 pm
by toffee_scot
Strange how the deal is quite short term, but let’s see how well he performs in the next 12 months.

It is good we’ve signed him and that’s been confirmed early. Hopefully Moyes can continue to get more from him.