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Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:36 pm
by Kerryblueboy
How is the set up right with Godfrey in at right back

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:45 pm
by Gash
Evertonian in NC wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:24 pm I mean, certainly hope you are right. Probably more likely than not you are, though Everton is quite good at Darkest Timeline darkening.
Put it this way, if we don't and we've learnt nothing from the last few years then we deserve everything we get.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:47 pm
by brap2
Ive no energy for it me self because it's so obvious tbh.

We are a very very very poor side.

Dyche is a very limited manager who is doing the job he's been asked to do. Right now, in this moment, he is doing an objectively bad job.

We are not going to like it, but chances are he squeezes enough out.

Sooner we can move on from the whole debacle the better but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:48 pm
by TheRam
Kerryblueboy wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:36 pm How is the set up right with Godfrey in at right back
Fucking hell.

Because we were for large parts in control of the game getting the ball in good positions.

The Godfrey thing really isn’t that much of an issue.

I’m not sure the result changes with Coleman or Patterson in there.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:49 pm
by Gash
Kerryblueboy wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:36 pm How is the set up right with Godfrey in at right back
We didn't lose because Ben Godfrey was at right back.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:58 pm
by Gary1878
Two defensive mistakes today but the guys in attack are rock bottom in terms of scoring goals. It’s properly worrying how bad we are in turning our possession and chances into goals.

There isn’t any real belief that we will score in games. It’s a shame as we continue to play decent football and create chances, but if you don’t take them then games just pass you by.

I think it’s probably 60% the players, 40% Dyche. Ultimately it’s down to the players to finish chances, but Dyche has to tweak something and find ways of changing the players mentality, not just bang on about it in interviews like a broken record.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:58 pm
by brap2
Gash wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:49 pm We didn't lose because Ben Godfrey was at right back.
It did not help.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:59 pm
by brap2


Bingo.

Very comfortable game for a poor united.

Our lack of creativity in the final third is shocking. Defence goes to bits when they step up as well.

Poor game for the manager that one I think regardless of the shirt of the opponent.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 4:03 pm
by Trowel
This is where xG falls over, where it gives no context of who took the shots.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 4:31 pm
by Evertonian in NC
We have one, genuinely creative player (Onana). He won't be here in two years, maybe not in 6 months. It is an immense problem. One that won't magically disappear when we move on from Dyche.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 4:33 pm
by Kerryblueboy
The whole we are great at set pieces has been found out too block or mark tark and that’s it 14 open play goals this season 14 can we please bin this grock off and get someone who can actually coach football

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 4:37 pm
by brap2
Trowel wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 4:03 pm This is where xG falls over, where it gives no context of who took the shots.


We simply make poor chances from poor play. We win the ball high up and suddenly realise nobody has any idea where the ball should go.

Compare that to how many times united got in to Pickford in 1,2 passes. They had a pattern and repeated it. We lump it in the box, blocked shot from 30 yards, and repeat that until we lose it.

United were more dangerous from our possession today then we were. Waiting to break every time.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 4:59 pm
by Cantoffee
Yea there's defo something in the creating lots of poor quality chances.

Would take three 0.3xg chances a match above 10 0.1 xg chances. In theory same expected goals but not sure thats what plays out in reality.

Can't under perform xg this much for this long and there not be an underlying issue.

Still should be scoring more though, that McNeil chance end of the half was bad finishing imo and not something a coach can solve. We do simply need more goalscorers across the attacking positions and midfield.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 5:02 pm
by Cozzie
We're just poo.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 5:10 pm
by blueforyou
Garner at RB with midfield of Gana; Onana; Doucoure

Worth a go