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Re: Next Everton Manager

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:48 pm
by Escalator
74Blue wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:45 pm That's actually not a bad shout tbf. Could he come in until the end of the season as manager, then move upstairs into a DOF role? He's certainly got an eye for a bargain or two and knows the club inside out. I reckon he'd be a pretty decent DOF tbh. It's whether he'd be able to completely hang up his boots and let the head coach get on with the day to day coaching or would he be too tempted to get his tracky bottoms on and meddle in training.
So we would sack Thelwell for Moyes ?

Re: Next Everton Manager

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:49 pm
by 74Blue
Escalator wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:48 pm So we would sack Thelwell for Moyes ?
He's out of contract at the end of the season, so no sacking necessary.

Re: Next Everton Manager

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:53 pm
by TheRam
Being a director of football involves more than just buying players though.

Re: Next Everton Manager

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:56 pm
by kramer
I know he’s got a good job already and that a lot of Brighton’s good decision-making starts with ownership but we should at least be sounding out David Weir for that role if we don’t continue with Thelwell.

Re: Next Everton Manager

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:58 pm
by Paddockoldie
kramer wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:56 pm I know he’s got a good job already and that a lot of Brighton’s good decision-making starts with ownership but we should at least be sounding out David Weir for that role if we don’t continue with Thelwell.
I was talking to someone about Davie and he said he was approached a few years ago snd turned us down.

Re: Next Everton Manager

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:02 pm
by kramer
TheRam wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:53 pm Being a director of football involves more than just buying players though.
I think Moyes is generally excellent at all aspects of long-term football strategy. Probably his biggest strength, even more so than coaching, where he can be a bit too slow to react and too conservative tactically overall.

We weren’t just excellent in the market while he was here, we were also pretty outstanding on the sports science side of things. Then Martinez gutted the operation for his guys and we’ve haven’t been right since.

It’s kind of amazing how much he did while he was here. Also turned out to be our downfall when he walked, even though it had gone stale.

Re: Next Everton Manager

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:05 pm
by kramer
Paddockoldie wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:58 pm I was talking to someone about Davie and he said he was approached a few years ago snd turned us down.
That tracks. You don’t leave a stable job at Brighton to work with someone like Moshiri.

Friedkin actually has money so different situation now.

Still a long shot but I think he needs to be reapproached given the new circumstances.

Re: Next Everton Manager

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:38 pm
by NickNack
Bluebridge wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:47 pm Exactly what I said last week, makes a lot of sense.
I posted similar recently - could work, unless they’re already sorting a deal with Thelwell

Re: Next Everton Manager

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:47 pm
by Paddockoldie
kramer wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:05 pm That tracks. You don’t leave a stable job at Brighton to work with someone like Moshiri.

Friedkin actually has money so different situation now.

Still a long shot but I think he needs to be reapproached given the new circumstances.
I'd look at their recruitment team too

Re: Next Everton Manager

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:53 pm
by Kerryblueboy
Some lads have very rose tinted opinions of moyes he was great here but how could you have him as dof he would totally undermine a new head coach

Re: Next Everton Manager

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:04 pm
by kramer
Kerryblueboy wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:53 pm Some lads have very rose tinted opinions of moyes he was great here but how could you have him as dof he would totally undermine a new head coach
In a hypothetical world where he’s willing to move upstairs, he’d have to understand that it means giving up day-to-day control and focusing on long-term planning. Maybe he’s too much of a control freak to handle that, maybe not. Impossible to say.

He’s earned the rose tinted opinions for me. Not one single manager has properly looked after the long-term well-being of the club since. I think he’d do well given time to simply focus on planning and transfer strategy but it’s just a guess.

Re: Next Everton Manager

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:05 pm
by Silas
Mourinho might want to prove he can do something with a team in the shit, he would enjoy a club like Everton I think. Would be a huge risk but would definitely be interesting

Re: Next Everton Manager

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:05 pm
by Evertonian418
I liked Moyes in his time but we have to move forward.

Re: Next Everton Manager

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:12 pm
by sam of the south
Yay, the yesterday’s men thread

Re: Next Everton Manager

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:18 pm
by kramer
Silas wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:05 pm Mourinho might want to prove he can do something with a team in the shit, he would enjoy a club like Everton I think. Would be a huge risk but would definitely be interesting
In theory.

I wonder how much sticking it to Barca / Guardiola fueled him.

Had one great season winning the PL with Chelsea but otherwise hasn’t been the same manager since his Real stint. He got his revenge, won basically everyhting he could win. What’s left?