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Audrey Horne wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:55 amYoungy

"Jasper" (sic)
"Douc"
"Dom"
"Patto"...

Sean Dyche

Fed up with him now. Looks a player that would rather be anywhere else and is just going through the motions.

Think he's happy to sit here and run his contract down and take a nice signing on fee somewhere else. I don't think anyone's going to pay decent money for a player with his injury record and a career that was decent for about 18 months behind closed doors.

He's not even doing the 'other stuff' that he's meant to be good at. I know that's all everyone else's fault but it's clear he doesn't want to be here and if the season's anything to go by so far, get Beto starting and put DCL on the bench.

Gash wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 5:03 pm Think he's happy to sit here and run his contract down and take a nice signing on fee somewhere else. I don't think anyone's going to pay decent money for a player with his injury record and a career that was decent for about 18 months behind closed doors.

He's not evening doing the 'other stuff' that he's meant to be good at. I know that's all everyone else's fault but it's clear he doesn't want to be here and if the season's anything to go by so far, get Beto starting and put DCL on the bench.

18 months!! I must've missed 12 of those...

If someone comes in we probably have to take the money.

But I doubt we'd replace him and losing Onana and DCL and not replacing them would leave us much worse off than last season.

If we consider Lindstrom a Danjuma replacement then we've added Ndiyae but that's it.

We look desperately short at RB, wings still don't look great, CM is missing a 6, and DCL out would leave us with Beto who causes problems but let's be real he looks absolute pants.

Beto scores more goals if given the same minutes.

Not sure what he was supposed to do with the service he got today... None of that is anything to do with his commitment or desire to leave, we barely got the ball within 5 yards of his feet all game.

There was one great example where some numpty fired a ball right at him as he was spinning in behind and just needed it slid through and he'd have been in on goal. The over hit pass wasn't even to his feet and he not only had to stop his spin but then try stretch about 3 feet to attempt to control it, which he sort of did but was so off balance he was immediately dispossessed. He even threw both arms towards the goal to explain the very obvious pass that should have been made and was understandably hugely frustrated.

Give him some actual service and vaguely intelligent passes and then complain of he doesn't do anything, but there's nothing on him today for being ineffective.

Beat 4-0 and you're complaining about the striker

brap2 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 9:09 pm Beat 4-0 and you're complaining about the striker

Well yeah we didn't score and didn't look like scoring. Can't give the striker a pass when he visibly did nothing.

Pickford the main reason for the 4 goals but he's been our player of the year for about 6 of the last 3 years.

I would probably sell but in his defence it’s a tough role he is trying to play the amount of times he gets the ball and there isn’t another Everton player within 15/20 yards of him and he has to try and hold it up he was playing against both centre backs yesterday needs someone up there with him

The Doc wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 7:23 am Well yeah we didn't score and didn't look like scoring. Can't give the striker a pass when he visibly did nothing.

Pickford the main reason for the 4 goals but he's been our player of the year for about 6 of the last 3 years.

Reckon we win 6-4 with a better striker?

Goalie made one howler no doubt but if a team wallops you 4-0 and you barely touch them it's not the goalie and it's not the striker imo.

V ready for him to go though, hope we get a bid and can move on.

Would say tho we've downgraded in every position we've signed under Dyche?

brap2 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 8:06 am Reckon we win 6-4 with a better striker?

Goalie made one howler no doubt but if a team wallops you 4-0 and you barely touch them it's not the goalie and it's not the striker imo.

V ready for him to go though, hope we get a bid and can move on.

Would say tho we've downgraded in every position we've signed under Dyche?

2 howlers imo, but I think we've become so accustomed to him being rooted to his line we forget about them. I'm not sure how many keepers would stay on their line when the ball is crossed into the centre of the 6 yard box and you're 2ft away from it, can use your hands and you have an unopposed run at it

Got to get into his head about his next move. He probably thought, called up to England, playing under Ancelotti, scoring goals - his career was on the up.

Got to tell him it’s on the way down unless he pulls up trees for us this season. How well he plays will determine if he goes to Fulham or Arsenal. (as examples of levels)

Toddacelli wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 9:15 am Got to get into his head about his next move. He probably thought, called up to England, playing under Ancelotti, scoring goals - his career was on the up.

Got to tell him it’s on the way down unless he pulls up trees for us this season. How well he plays will determine if he goes to Fulham or Arsenal. (as examples of levels)

You can really pull up trees though if you spend the entire game without another teammate within 20 yards of you, you're constantly trying to control head height passes with two or three defenders swarming you, and the only hope of getting in on goal is if McNeil manages to ping a cross on to your head from deep as you majestically rise between two tall CBs.

I don't think he could pull up a dandelion let alone a tree with how we played as a team yesterday.

Toddacelli wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 9:15 am Got to get into his head about his next move. He probably thought, called up to England, playing under Ancelotti, scoring goals - his career was on the up.

Got to tell him it’s on the way down unless he pulls up trees for us this season. How well he plays will determine if he goes to Fulham or Arsenal. (as examples of levels)

Fulham being a considerable upgrade on his current team whatever.