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Re: Dominic Calvert-Lewin

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:56 pm
by blueToffee
You could read that statement as he wants to get there by the end of the season before he leaves.

However, it's hard to know what the plan is here for him. He could probably get a gig sat on the bench of a bigger club, and do that path...but if he wants to play regularly I'd be surprised if the grass is much greener for him.

From the club's point of view, it's good his fitness seems to be a bit more stable, but we're not in the position to be handing out fat (probably) last contracts for any player right now. If there is a reasonable deal to be made while we try and build up our depth/experience in that position it might be the sensible thing to do...but it's a tricky situation.

Re: Dominic Calvert-Lewin

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:29 pm
by Juanito
He should bide his time, sign a deal and play for a new, progressive manager with a budget that allows him to play alongside pacy wingers and a creative number 10. We can dream.

Re: Dominic Calvert-Lewin

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:00 pm
by howard1334
Being annoyed at people for wanting to move on from DCL is ludicrous. It is not unreasonable to want to move on from a striker who is statistically the worst in Europe at actually putting away the chances that are created for him. That's true even if DCL helps in other ways on the pitch -- which DCL does, but i'm not sure it is to the extent some of his super fans think it is, as evidenced by the fact that his passing and possession statistics range from completely average to actually awful. There's literally nothing that DCL excels at statistically compared to the average prem striker other than winning headers and clearances. See https://fbref.com/en/players/59e6e5bf/D ... vert-Lewin.

I've seen nothing showing that we have actually performed better from a statistical perspective when DCL is on the pitch since 2021-22. If it exists, i'd love to see it. Until then, can people stop acting like they are so much more knowledgeable about football than the rest of us when it comes to crediting DCL's supposed special ability to "drag us up the field" in a way apparently no other striker could do?

Re: Dominic Calvert-Lewin

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:03 pm
by brap2
howard1334 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:00 pm Being annoyed at people for wanting to move on from DCL is ludicrous. It is not unreasonable to want to move on from a striker who is statistically the worst in Europe at actually putting away the chances that are created for him. That's true even if DCL helps in other ways on the pitch -- which DCL does, but i'm not sure it is to the extent some of his super fans think it is, as evidenced by the fact that his passing and possession statistics range from completely average to actually awful. There's literally nothing that DCL excels at statistically compared to the average prem striker other than winning headers and clearances. See https://fbref.com/en/players/59e6e5bf/D ... vert-Lewin.

I've seen nothing showing that we have actually performed better from a statistical perspective when DCL is on the pitch since 2021-22. If it exists, i'd love to see it. Until then, can people stop acting like they are so much more knowledgeable about football than the rest of us when it comes to crediting DCL's supposed special ability to "drag us up the field" in a way apparently no other striker could do?
He doesn't get any possession mate. Unless you count balls being trebuchet'd at his head from a great distance with 2 cbs around him and his number ten approximately 10 mins away via Uber.

If you have watched him over the last few years...and then watched us WITHOUT him, and still don't get it. You are truly beyond getting it.

Re: Dominic Calvert-Lewin

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:06 pm
by weimaranerblues
Just shown Martinez save in Paris tonight ,

Re: Dominic Calvert-Lewin

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:59 pm
by OldEnglandToffee
brap2 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:03 pm He doesn't get any possession mate. Unless you count balls being trebuchet'd at his head from a great distance with 2 cbs around him and his number ten approximately 10 mins away via Uber.

If you have watched him over the last few years...and then watched us WITHOUT him, and still don't get it. You are truly beyond getting it.
but the fact that we struggle without him is more indicative of the other strikers we have/have had rather than how good he is. I think the point he was making is that even though his hold up play is great, if we had someone else who wasnt quite as good at that, but could score then we would might do better.

Re: Dominic Calvert-Lewin

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2024 12:00 am
by TheRam
Can’t believe i actually said beto should be starting over him.

Why didn’t anyone on here reach out to me? I clearly was not in a good mindset.

Re: Dominic Calvert-Lewin

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2024 8:21 am
by brap2
TheRam wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 12:00 am Can’t believe i actually said beto should be starting over him.

Why didn’t anyone on here reach out to me? I clearly was not in a good mindset.
He gets shots off. Say what you like about the rest of his game (it is embarrassing at this level) but that man gets shots off.

Re: Dominic Calvert-Lewin

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 6:53 am
by Toddacelli
brap2 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 8:21 am He gets shots off. Say what you like about the rest of his game (it is embarrassing at this level) but that man gets shots off.
He absolutely does, to the point the air above Goodison is a no-fly zone on match days.

Re: Dominic Calvert-Lewin

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:58 pm
by Shogun
Heart isn't in it imo

Re: Dominic Calvert-Lewin

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:15 pm
by Bluebridge
Shogun wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:58 pm Heart isn't in it imo
Think you’re right, and to be fair, the balls played to him are fucking wank, but time to give Beto a proper run.

Re: Dominic Calvert-Lewin

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:22 pm
by 777Kidnappings
He's gambled and lost. Only team daft enough to hand him a 100k a week contract now is us. If we've any sense we'll take the offer off the table

Re: Dominic Calvert-Lewin

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:27 pm
by Gash
Shogun wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:58 pm Heart isn't in it imo
Yeah, was think that during the game. Making all the right noises about wanting to be Everton's top scoroer in the PL but looks more like he's concerend another serious injury put's the kibosh on his move in the summer.

Re: Dominic Calvert-Lewin

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:01 pm
by Stumpy
Shogun wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:58 pm Heart isn't in it imo
It just looks and feels like it's time to part ways

Re: Dominic Calvert-Lewin

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:05 pm
by Bluedylan1
Might well be waiting for Dyche to go, and a fresh start at Bramley Moore, under a different manager where he gets to play some footie and gets some service.

I know we're not meant to acknowledge that a lot of footie players treat their career like a job, but I can absolutely imagine myself being uninspired and waiting for this manager to leave if I was a player.