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Re: Tim Iroegbunam
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2026 2:02 pm
by Audrey Horne
Raptor wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2026 1:59 pm
Im not sure theres a better player in the league at making as a last ditch tackle to make up for the fact he was initially so far out of position the opposition exploited this to cut through us.
Bite their hand off at 20m
Crazy
Re: Tim Iroegbunam
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2026 2:08 pm
by Shogun
Funny how this lad splits opinions. I don't see him as anything more than a championship player. You can't be that bad on the ball and that bad in releasing the ball and be anything more than a championship player imo. He's also 23, so he's not super young that you'd expect he'll develop on that sort of stuff (although obviously still young that he can).
He's an elite ball winner but you can't get away with his limitations in the Premier League.
We're stacked in CM if we're bringing in Hackney (and maybe even another), so selling him for £20m is stunning business for me.
Re: Tim Iroegbunam
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2026 2:22 pm
by Matt1878
Shogun wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2026 2:08 pm
Funny how this lad splits opinions. I don't see him as anything more than a championship player. You can't be that bad on the ball and that bad in releasing the ball and be anything more than a championship player imo. He's also 23, so he's not super young that you'd expect he'll develop on that sort of stuff (although obviously still young he does that he can).
He's an elite ball winner but you can't get away with his limitations in the Premier League.
We're stacked in CM if we're bringing in Hackney (and maybe even another), so selling him for £20m is stunning business for me.
He carries the ball really well at times, seen him stride through the midfield. He has the odd lapse but looks more composed on the ball than Rohl, (maybe a low bar.) Early criticisms were about his positional sense, but I dont hear that so much recently.
At 22yo and 60 PL Games in, I'm still very much invested in him. One to watch over the next 12 months and then see if he is the long term option, or a sell on at the right time with hopefully a nice profit. I'd be wanting more than 20m if he develops further over the next 12 months though.
Re: Tim Iroegbunam
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2026 2:24 pm
by Bluedylan1
Yeah I'm not convinced with Timothy either. I think he's clearly got some great qualities, but they aren't great enough to outweigh his glaring deficiencies and I don't really think you can get away with that in a Prem midfield.
His performances vary from 8/10 one week to 4/10 the following week, and then parts of his game are 8/10 and other parts of his game are 4/10. You never really know what you're getting and that's not a foundation you can build a team on.
Re: Tim Iroegbunam
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2026 2:54 pm
by AjaxAndy
Think when you look at how much he developed this season, especially post Newcastle there's an argument that another 12 months of development at the same rate would see him as a much coveted player.
If we brought in the Danish guy and Hackney, whilst also giving more game time to Rohl and Armstrong, then I'd probably accept moving him on, but I also think there's a 50/50 chance we'd really regret it down the line.
Re: Tim Iroegbunam
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2026 3:27 pm
by Raptor
AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2026 2:54 pm
Think when you look at how much he developed this season, especially post Newcastle there's an argument that another 12 months of development at the same rate would see him as a much coveted player.
You could also argue that he's had a really good season and hit his ceiling, so the best option is to move him on at a high, not wait 12 months where he could plateau or decrease - this is something I feel we haven't done well enough in the past, but probably only something Moyes and team would be able to assess
Re: Tim Iroegbunam
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2026 3:57 pm
by blueToffee
I'd personally keep him, but it's either sign a contract or leave this summer.
If he's staying, I'd expect it sorted pretty early in the summer. The longer it goes on, the more likely he'll be off I'd guess.
Right now given the lack of noise...I think there is a better chance he's sold. Sometimes we can keep these things under wraps though.
Re: Tim Iroegbunam
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2026 4:59 pm
by StirlingBlue
I think a lot of people like him because he’s got more dynamism in midfield than we’ve seen in a long time.
Genuinely can’t remember the last time we had a midfielder with both pace AND power - you can’t teach those things so if he did develop the rest of his game he could be amazing.
Re: Tim Iroegbunam
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2026 5:12 pm
by toffee_scot
Might have to sell to raise funds, when we bought him it was essentially a PSR swap with Dobbin so selling him would almost be pure profit I imagine?
Re: Tim Iroegbunam
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2026 5:26 pm
by Bumble
We missed a trick by not sending him out on loan for a season this year.
A full 35 games making mistakes, honing game intelligence, learning about when and where to pass, sit, move, go forward.
He has the raw materials to be a decent player, but at the moment as he has missed lots of game time we only have half of one.
Re: Tim Iroegbunam
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2026 5:52 pm
by Raptor
Bumble wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2026 5:26 pm
We missed a trick by not sending him out on loan for a season this year.
A full 35 games making mistakes, honing game intelligence, learning about when and where to pass, sit, move, go forward.
He has the raw materials to be a decent player, but at the moment as he has missed lots of game time we only have half of one.
He played in 31 of our games, 29 in the league. Yes, some of these were as sub, but he had a fair amount of game time, which I'd argue is better for his development than playing slightly more games in a lesser league
Re: Tim Iroegbunam
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2026 7:02 pm
by Audrey Horne
Also he is 23 but he hasn't really been playing properly since he was 19 for example, he didn't play for villa did he?
He is defo improving with game time. I really like him.
I think if we had a more mobile player alongside him to compliment him better, it would be fine and he would improve the bits he needed to in time.