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Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:27 pm
by Big Nevs Vaz
The club statement says that the 'PSR calculation which remains subject to change, pending the outcome of the appeal'.
Why is the PSR calculation subject to change? Are we not just appealing the severity of the penalty i.e. the 10 points and how the PL just picked that from the deep recesses of its arse.
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:29 pm
by 777Kidnappings
The Doc wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:24 pm
Can someone explain to me how Chelsea aren't in breach?
Because they spent a billion over 8 years which is only 125m a year. Then they sold homegrown players so the whole amount comes off that 125m.... the problem for Chelsea is if they aren't successful they are creating a massive long term problem. They are deferring ffp problems and banking on being successful so to generate more money and not have to make more signings
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:31 pm
by brap2
"As a result - and because of the Premier League's new commitment to deal with such matters "in-season" - the club is in a position where it has had no option but to submit a PSR calculation which remains subject to change, pending the outcome of the appeal.
"The club must now defend another Premier League complaint which includes the very same financial periods for which it has already been sanctioned, before that appeal has even been heard"
This does not make me very confident as the club are frequently, almost every time tbh, completely fucking wrong.
The esk does give me a bit of confidence but I wonder if he's talking about the same thing. Where he says we have no broken P&S, and the club say "Pending outcome of the appeal"...I dunno, I'd expect him to err on the side of caution re the appeal but, maybe not.
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:33 pm
by Cereal Killer
Zoolander wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:26 pm
Seems illogical to be punished up to three times for the same accounting failure.
Triple jeopardy….
Club statement making a large point in regards to this
PL basically said the first penalty was based on EFL rules, Everton have said “well EFL rules also state you can’t be punished for the same periods over and over, so are you basing this on EFL or not you bunch of pathetic cunts?”
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:40 pm
by Gash
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:43 pm
by Cozzie
So when in the absolute flying fuck is our appeal for the first sanction going to be heard???
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:44 pm
by weimaranerblues
Loves sky narrative that Forest are looking to work with the PL unlike us this time. Look how that worked out for us .
Sick to my stomach
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:44 pm
by weimaranerblues
Cozzie wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:43 pm
So when in the absolute flying fuck is our appeal for the first sanction going to be heard???
February
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:45 pm
by Gash
brap2 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:31 pm
"As a result - and because of the Premier League's new commitment to deal with such matters "in-season" - the club is in a position where it has had no option but to submit a PSR calculation which remains subject to change, pending the outcome of the appeal.
"The club must now defend another Premier League complaint which includes the very same financial periods for which it has already been sanctioned, before that appeal has even been heard"
This does not make me very confident as the club are frequently, almost every time tbh, completely fucking wrong.
The esk does give me a bit of confidence but I wonder if he's talking about the same thing. Where he says we have no broken P&S, and the club say "Pending outcome of the appeal"...I dunno, I'd expect him to err on the side of caution re the appeal but, maybe not.
Yeah, it concerns me that the club may have completely misread the rules. Hard to believe but not something that would come as a surprise under Moshiri's tenure.
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:46 pm
by weimaranerblues
PL rule book is an absolute piss take,
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:48 pm
by sam of the south
Out of business soon then.
Cool.
Will we continue the site/support group?
I for one hope so.
Fuck
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:49 pm
by Cozzie
Gash wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:45 pm
Yeah, it concerns me that the club may have completely misread the rules. Hard to believe but not something that would come as a surprise under Moshiri's tenure.
Who's actually running things now?
Colin chong is interim CEO, who's actually making the decisions over all though? We just appear to be completely rudderless.
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:50 pm
by Cozzie
If we survive this the 777 shit will fuck us over anyway.
It's all a massive mess this.
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:57 pm
by Duncandisorderly
Disgrace this, these corrupt twats are properly after us here. They must know they've got a case and are going to fuck us over again. Appeal and new hearing will be hand picked stooges by the premier league, again.
Best case we might get a few points back from the first deduction and a lesser second deduction. 12 points or so, forest get a few points off them and we're still in the fight. It's a big worry though administration wise with the stadium etc if we go down.
Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:00 pm
by Mouse
I'm going to hide my head in the sand for the next few months until this is all appealed and completed. None of it makes sense and trying to get my head around the idea of rules to ensure sustainable finances being used to potentially bankupt clubs, for the same financial periods to be punished more than once, for limits to remain unchanged while costs rise, etc will only cause me too much mental stress.
The idea that all this is good for football is crazy and only strengthens the argument for outside oversight, the very thing the EPL wants to avoid.
