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Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:11 am
by Cods
AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2024 3:07 pm I can't remember, but did McNeil set up Keane and also slip DCL in for the one on one at the end... That hill @brap2 is determined to die on is getting bigger by the day 😜
Think the latter was Harrison, according to the commentator anyway, but the three have been linking up pretty well together. Green shoots.

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:55 am
by brap2
Cods wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:11 am Think the latter was Harrison, according to the commentator anyway, but the three have been linking up pretty well together. Green shoots.
So just the bit after the set piece then?

Thank god he's in the ten.

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:08 am
by TheRam
Wish he’d stop setting up goals tbh.

I need to see a 94% progressive pass rate thank you.

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:10 am
by brap2
TheRam wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:08 am Wish he’d stop setting up goals tbh.

I need to see a 94% progressive pass rate thank you.
I'm jooooooking I'm joking.

Delighted for him, lovely feet. That being on the pitch immediately following a set piece role really suits him.

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:30 pm
by Kerryblueboy
Can’t argue with his numbers personally would rather ndayie in the 10 but if he keeps setting up goals no problem for me

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 7:07 pm
by Cods
brap2 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:55 am So just the bit after the set piece then?

Thank god he's in the ten.
I was discussing Harrison's through ball, and the three behind Dom. Are we at crossed wires?

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 7:24 pm
by wepull
I think he'll continue scoring bangers. He's one of those players where I feel that it doesn't look like a fluke. He has done it throughout his career and playing in the centre just gives him more opportunities to hit those

On a lighter note, this is how Bily would have fared had Moyes played him in the centre.

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 7:33 pm
by brap2
Cods wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 7:07 pm I was discussing Harrison's through ball, and the three behind Dom. Are we at crossed wires?
Yes a little, I was saying - "so McNeil was just responsible for the pass (assist) that came immediately following a set piece" - because you had clarified that actually it was the much maligned Harrison playing the defence splitters.

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:45 am
by brap2


At the risk of summoning ajaxandy, Brap2 opinion in the mud here

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:07 pm
by AjaxAndy
brap2 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:45 am

At the risk of summoning ajaxandy, Brap2 opinion in the mud here
Actually tbf I'm never a full on stats person, I think you have to take them with some consideration for what you're seeing on the pitch too.

This does show he's able to be creative in that role, but he also really struggles in some games too.

One thing I would argue those stats show though is that he's more suited to playing in there than Ndaiye who isn't that much of a creative passer, which I do think is important for playing centrally.

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:14 pm
by brap2
AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:07 pm Actually tbf I'm never a full on stats person, I think you have to take them with some consideration for what you're seeing on the pitch too.

This does show he's able to be creative in that role, but he also really struggles in some games too.

One thing I would argue those stats show though is that he's more suited to playing in there than Ndaiye who isn't that much of a creative passer, which I do think is important for playing centrally.
We won't know until he's asked to do it and we see him try. He's doing his job well (dribble as far as you can and win a throw in).

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:27 pm
by AjaxAndy
brap2 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:14 pm We won't know until he's asked to do it and we see him try. He's doing his job well (dribble as far as you can and win a throw in).
True, I'd like to see him doing more creative passing out wide before I believed he was suitable for the role though tbh.

Is he dribbling always because that's the player his is, or the manager's instructions? Hard to say either way this early on I suppose.

Love him and his attitude though regardless of where he ultimately ends up playing in the team.

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:40 pm
by brap2
brap2 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:45 am At the risk of summoning ajaxandy,
My own worst enemy

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 2:37 pm
by UnsyisaRhino
AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:07 pm Actually tbf I'm never a full on stats person, I think you have to take them with some consideration for what you're seeing on the pitch too.

This does show he's able to be creative in that role, but he also really struggles in some games too.

One thing I would argue those stats show though is that he's more suited to playing in there than Ndaiye who isn't that much of a creative passer, which I do think is important for playing centrally.
He's drifted in and out of games at times recently, when we move the ball quickly enough then I think he looks great, but there's times were I think he's played absolutely crap but then pops up with a goal and an assist from a set piece.

Fortunately he's always doing the running off the ball, so you know at a minimum he's covering that side of what we need from him.

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:26 am
by brap2
Crap again