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Kalvin Philips On Loan
Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 10:24 am
by Trowel
Re: Summer Transfer Window Discussion
Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 10:30 am
by Brownie
Trowel wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 10:24 am
Absolutely stank the place out at West Ham. Mate of mine is a Hammer - was buzzing when they signed him and within two weeks was rescinding all of the text messages he’d sent to us saying how he was going to be a game changer
Re: Summer Transfer Window Discussion
Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 10:37 am
by brap2
Get him fit and his head right and he's he a great loan.
Sell Onana and let Philips on loan take that role.
Re: Summer Transfer Window Discussion
Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 10:47 am
by Bluedylan1
Yeah it's weird what's happened with him. Dyche and Moyes aren't dissimilar and you'd imagine Moyes would've got something out of him and he'd have a lot to prove at West Ham. The fact that neither of those things happened, and that it went badly south would be quite a big red flag. Also there was the stuff about his weight at Man City.
On the other hand he played his best stuff under Bielsa, who had a super intense training regime and playing style, so maybe if you could get him fully fit and invested in the team, he'd be an asset.
Would be a risk. Would worry about seeing him spending most of the season on the bench because Dyche wasn't into his attitude.
Re: Summer Transfer Window Discussion
Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 10:57 am
by Kerryblueboy
Isn’t he on 200 k a week at city
Re: Summer Transfer Window Discussion
Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 11:02 am
by TheRam
Get the impression he’s not really looked after himself all that well.
He’s worth the risk as he’s a good player and the type we need in there but would worry about having another older player who doesn’t have the motivation anymore.
Re: Summer Transfer Window Discussion
Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 11:41 am
by Cozzie
Yeah it's a strange one, the guys obviously got talent.
Not sure why it never worked for him at West Ham but I'd happily take a punt no problem.
Get him back to his best and we have a hell of a player.
Re: Summer Transfer Window Discussion
Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 11:43 am
by 777Kidnappings
Going off the cost of his last loan Phillips would be a stupid signing. West ham paid 6m and all his wages.... that's 16m for a full season and he was awful
Re: Summer Transfer Window Discussion
Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 12:00 pm
by Gash
He's a decent player and won't be the last to go to Man City and sink without trace. I'm just not sure we can be taking on another player who's been decent but clearly needs an arm round his shoulder and could take 15 games to get back to any sort of form.
Re: Summer Transfer Window Discussion
Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 12:04 pm
by Escalator
Would be a hell of a gamble at £150 k a week plus loan fee.
Re: Summer Transfer Window Discussion
Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 12:17 pm
by Goaljira
Just feels like the same arguments that were put forward for why Dele would work out, and I'm not falling for it again.
Re: Summer Transfer Window Discussion
Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 12:23 pm
by StirlingBlue
It would all be dependant upon the loan terms.
Given how he tanked at West Ham I doubt City will be asking for as much, half his wages with no fee and it’s a great deal - anything approaching the West Ham one and it’s awful
Re: Summer Transfer Window Discussion
Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 12:24 pm
by AndSeel
Feel he was massively unfit during his West Ham tenure. If we could get him match fit he would be a solid option to have.
Re: Summer Transfer Window Discussion
Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 12:32 pm
by Granite
Need him in for a full preseason, if we were to do it.
Re: Summer Transfer Window Discussion
Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 12:44 pm
by Shogun
We should be absolutely nowhere near Phillips. Need to look at players as they are rather than what they were.