The Rebuild

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Shogun wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 1:44 pm Begovic, Joao and Young announced as gone

I'm a bit worried that they're the only 3 announced
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Shogun wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 1:44 pm Begovic, Joao and Young announced as gone

I'm a bit worried that they're the only 3 announced

If Keanes happy to be 4th choice here im not against him being around for 2 more years. He should be playing somewhere for his sake, everyone else i want to stay anyway. Squad game and all.
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AndSeel wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 5:01 pm If Keanes happy to be 4th choice here im not against him being around for 2 more years. He should be playing somewhere for his sake, everyone else i want to stay anyway. Squad game and all.
Mate, come on
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Shogun wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 5:42 pmMate, come on
What do you mean. We cant afford to be buying 12 new players.

If Keane stays for 2 years and it allows us to spend more on forwards then its fine.

He will barely play with the 3 ahead of him
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AndSeel wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 6:16 pm What do you mean. We cant afford to be buying 12 new players.

If Keane stays for 2 years and it allows us to spend more on forwards then its fine.

He will barely play with the 3 ahead of him
We could sign a random league one player for £1m and he'd be better for us than Keane in all likelihood. The bloke has been an utter liability. He's been here about 8 years and only played well under Carlo. If we aren't taking this moment to part with Michael Keane then I give up.
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Even I'm not having giving Michael Keane a new contract as a good idea
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It’s just absolutely fucking time. For Michael Keane to leave.

Seems a lovely bloke, must be ok for money by now, think he should go be Pirlo for someone in League 1, have a great time, have great games every week and feel proud of himself.
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Wasn’t Keane on West Ham’s wanted list a couple of seasons ago? ………… when Moyes was in charge 😬
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Toddacelli wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 5:39 am It’s just absolutely fucking time. For Michael Keane to leave.

Seems a lovely bloke, must be ok for money by now, think he should go be Pirlo for someone in League 1, have a great time, have great games every week and feel proud of himself.
I mean come on why would he ever go and play in league 1. He could play for all 4 of the sides potentially prompted to the premier league this season
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Bluebridge wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 6:15 am Wasn’t Keane on West Ham’s wanted list a couple of seasons ago? ………… when Moyes was in charge 😬
Yes he was, this has been in the back of my mind for a while now.

I actually agree with whoever posted about him being a great 4th choice CB, but we can't afford to pay the wages he'd ask for to continue being 4th choice, we just don't have those kind of funds available.

He needs to go play too, even if it's stepping down a division or moving abroad. Zero point in him staying here as 4th choice at this stage of his career.

Would be a great move to go to the MLS imo although he hasn't been linked with that so imagine he'll be looking for another Premier League club.
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I wonder if Burnley would fancy him back, I know they had a fantastic defence last season, but premier league is a different kettle of fish.
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777Kidnappings wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 6:51 am I mean come on why would he ever go and play in league 1. He could play for all 4 of the sides potentially prompted to the premier league this season
He could and possibly might. But he’ll be as shit for them as he was for us. I just reckon he’d enjoy his footy more if he dropped a level or two and competed for things. He’s a bit of a baller and it’s sad to see him scrap for survival all the time and be a scapegoat. His career seems to be very negative to me, on the outside looking in obviously, and I think a change would be good. But he may not want that for himself.
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Toddacelli wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 9:26 am He could and possibly might. But he’ll be as shit for them as he was for us. I just reckon he’d enjoy his footy more if he dropped a level or two and competed for things. He’s a bit of a baller and it’s sad to see him scrap for survival all the time and be a scapegoat. His career seems to be very negative to me, on the outside looking in obviously, and I think a change would be good. But he may not want that for himself.
Just putting this out there, but describing a guy who's played 251 Premier League games and 14 international as a League One player is maybe taking it a step too far?

I get he has his issues as a player but he's a hell of a lot better than League One standard.

He's a lower Premier League / promotion chasing Championship standard defender who probably could comfortably play in the top league in Germany, Italy or France... He's a long way from League One.
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AjaxAndy wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 9:40 am Just putting this out there, but describing a guy who's played 251 Premier League games and 14 international as a League One player is maybe taking it a step too far?

I get he has his issues as a player but he's a hell of a lot better than League One standard.

He's a lower Premier League / promotion chasing Championship standard defender who probably could comfortably play in the top league in Germany, Italy or France... He's a long way from League One.
I wasn’t meaning to describe him as a League 1 player (although I realise I sort of did), I was meaning that there must be other leagues he’s better suited to, too ones like you mentioned, where he could boss it and challenge for honours.
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I actually hate how poor this team is. The Ipswich match was a 4-0er (they're currently losing comfortably at Leicester) that they somehow blew and drew 2-2.

Today we've only won 2-0 against a woeful Southampton side that couldn't be arsed and really could have made it closer in that second half. Should have absolutely blew them away 5-0 in those circumstances. If Illi is out of the team for Harrison then I don't even think we win that game today.

Massive massive work to do.
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