VAR and is there a way to fix it?

[biziclop]

Let's also not forget that over the past couple of years the rules have been specifically been tweaked continuously to suit VAR, and we get this shit result with that.

Abolishing VAR and replacing the rules with something that refs can actually judge would go a long way towards fixing the damage done.

[Irishbornevertonian]

Bin it off.
Just get rid.

In an ideal world, I’d be all for this. Sadly, it’s here now and it will be here for the future. TBH, I think it’s a ruining the spectacle.

And they call it progress


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[blueToffee]

I guess that's on the ref/assistants though, who will now have to be held accountable for their performance.

I very much get it's a difficult job, it really is.

The standards however used to be good enough.

I'd very much prefer to return to the time where games weren't held up for minutes because we had to watch slow motion replay and analysis, and nonsensical long winded discussion about whether or not there might have been the faintest of inconsequential touches on a player moving in the box, whilst we endure/ignore ultimate tag team wrestling at every corner kick, appreciate and justify the art of diving, and other blatant inconsistencies.

It's farcical.

The pursuit of perfect really is the enemy of good enough, and we've lost sight of what the game is about.

I'd argue a highlight reel of Steven Gerrard's incidents during some of the the derby games might say otherwise.

I think there is a balance to be had still between nothing and catching the really stupidly obvious stuff that gets missed minus the forensic analysis.

[Cods]

I'd argue a highlight reel of Steven Gerrard's incidents during some of the the derby games might say otherwise.

I think there is a balance to be had still between nothing and catching the really stupidly obvious stuff that gets missed minus the forensic analysis.

I don't entirely disagree with that, both points really, but on the first one there is something to be said about certain players or certain teams just not having VAR intervene when it would cost them and it does when it benefits them... I don't see how that has changed the net result all that much really.

Although Gerrard had some shockers, the awful two footer on Naysmith and his starfish dive in the box come to mind, VAR also wasnt there to see Cahill grind Alonso's (?) head in a headlock into the turf.

[Cods]

Get rid of penalties, completely.

See if players would stay on their feet and try to put it into the net rather than focussing on falling over.

The skill of a difficult finish is more interesting than the skill of trying to engineer a believable falling over...followed by 5 minutes of analysis of TV footage and feigned injury to get a VAR call.

[weimaranerblues]

One on-field error was recorded in Gameweek 31.

It was voted 3:2 that Chelsea should have been awarded a penalty against Everton, though the Toffees were then leading 3-0 in the 85th minute.

Everton defender James Tarkowski had "physically disengaged" from Wesley Fofana, before swinging "an arm into the chest".

[biziclop]

Get rid of penalties, completely.

See if players would stay on their feet and try to put it into the net rather than focussing on falling over.

The skill of a difficult finish is more interesting than the skill of trying to engineer a believable falling over...followed by 5 minutes of analysis of TV footage and feigned injury to get a VAR call.

I think the opposite should happen: award far more penalties, crucially award them regardless of whether the striker stays on their feet or not. Why should a defender get away with pulling someone's shirt just because they don't fall over?

[Cods]

I think the opposite should happen: award far more penalties, crucially award them regardless of whether the striker stays on their feet or not. Why should a defender get away with pulling someone's shirt just because they don't fall over?

For many people, penalties aren't even the acceptable solution for deciding a hard fought game where 120 minutes of knockout football has been played and there needs to be one winner. And even then both sides are given 5 each in order not to place too much emphasis on one action/outcome. Why would you ruin football to make a whole game out of cheating to win fouls in the penalty box? Farcical.

Shirt pulling can be stamped out by refs actually applying the law, yellow then red. If grappling, then both players receive a card. End of problem.

No need to destroy the beautiful game, and importantly no need to allow it to descend into rewarding deceptive-play-to-win approaches.

[biziclop]

For many people, penalties aren't even the acceptable solution for deciding a hard fought game where 120 minutes of knockout football has been played and there needs to be one winner. And even then both sides are given 5 each in order not to place too much emphasis on one action/outcome. Why would you ruin football to make a whole game out of cheating to win fouls in the penalty box? Farcical.

That's kind of the point. If referees punished defenders fouling no matter the attacker's reaction, the incentive for cheating would be removed overnight. Ironically VAR could even have been helpful here.

That they don't even look at a situation unless someone falls over is a deliberate choice.