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AjaxAndy wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 9:41 pm Missed THREE one on one chances, DCL would be getting absolutely rinsed on here if it'd been him.

Scored goals recently but tonight showed regardless of his recent form he's still not a player we can rely on long term.

I've about turned once again on him, maybe not for the last time.
He’s just scored four games in a row and went a long way to securing our safety.
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howard1334 wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 9:44 pm Maybe, just maybe you should stop oscillating between extremes and try to express nuanced, reasonable views
Just what Beto's performances are like, he's deadly for a few matches then misses three fucking one on ones... It's mind boggling.

Would be happy to not have to sit through his games like this though that's for sure next season. Just can't be relied on, but if he bags 5 in the next 5 it won't exactly be easy to not start believing he's actually decent.
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He gets shots off doesn't he the big man.

Some really improved CF play tonight. Their CBs will be glad to be away from him.

Massive shame for him, hope he can keep going.
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Juanito wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 9:46 pm He’s just scored four games in a row and went a long way to securing our safety.
Yep but doesn't mean he gets off scott free for missing 3 one on ones in a match. I get everyone wants him to do well but he's still massively erratic and that won't change. Do we just ignore him missing multiple gilt edged chances in a match?

Gets the praise rightfully for scoring goals, should get criticised if he misses them.

Will forever be thankful for his goals recently, but can't be starting him next season.
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Done enough to stick around but desperately need better quality up front.

He's proved a useful squad/backup player as he's performed well since coming in.

That's his level though, if we want to progress we need better.
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I think it’s all starting to click with him.

Gave their centre halves a horrid time to get those three chances and his play outside the box continues to improve.

Still a bit rough around the edges but there’s a lot to work with there.
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Surely we’re giving him until the end of the season before we make any bold predictions with him?
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The expectations in here are unreal.

There's no appreciation for the fact it's his athleticism and determination that gets him into these chances. You want a striker with those attributes and scores more than Beto has been? That's elite level players you're looking at there and we're no way near being in that market.

Look at all the other teams in the bottom half and who they've got to front. Beto is showing that he's perfectly fine for where we are and will be for a while.
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I reckon if you’re a scout you see what he did to get that third chance and say yeah I’m signing him.

Unbelievable pace and power. It was a 70/30 ball in the defenders favour and he’s come out of it one on one with the keeper.

Dom just doesn’t have that type of thing in him.
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Even the second chance, for a limited player that was the perfect touch to take the ball in his stride and get away from the defence. Can imagine loads of players would have got that stuck between their feet.
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Goaljira wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:13 pm The expectations in here are unreal.

There's no appreciation for the fact it's his athleticism and determination that gets him into these chances. You want a striker with those attributes and scores more than Beto has been? That's elite level players you're looking at there and we're no way near being in that market.

Look at all the other teams in the bottom half and who they've got to front. Beto is showing that he's perfectly fine for where we are and will be for a while.
Not expecting him to continue with his goals per game ratio, but that's also the problem because if he's not actually a finisher then it takes away the one thing that might keep him as a valid option for our starting striker next season.

I don't expect him to be a goal a game player, but I also don't expect him to miss 3 one on one chances either.

Same issues with Beto will always be there, they don't go away, erratic and probably not actually good enough for next season despite what a purple patch suggested.

As I said though I'm happy to have my opinion changed again, but tonight I'm very frustrated with a very frustrating player.
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AjaxAndy wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:18 pm Not expecting him to continue with his goals per game ratio, but that's also the problem because if he's not actually a finisher then it takes away the one thing that might keep him as a valid option for our starting striker next season.

I don't expect him to be a goal a game player, but I also don't expect him to miss 3 one on one chances either.

Same issues with Beto will always be there, they don't go away, erratic and probably not actually good enough for next season despite what a purple patch suggested.

As I said though I'm happy to have my opinion changed again, but tonight I'm very frustrated with a very frustrating player.
Who are you realistically seeing as someone we could a) afford and b) would want to come here that would meet your criteria?

3 chances tonight and none came off. He'll get chances against Wolves and they might. This is the difference now - we're creating multiple chances per game for him because of the way *he* is allowing us to play.
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AjaxAndy wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:18 pm Not expecting him to continue with his goals per game ratio, but that's also the problem because if he's not actually a finisher then it takes away the one thing that might keep him as a valid option for our starting striker next season.

I don't expect him to be a goal a game player, but I also don't expect him to miss 3 one on one chances either.

Same issues with Beto will always be there, they don't go away, erratic and probably not actually good enough for next season despite what a purple patch suggested.

As I said though I'm happy to have my opinion changed again, but tonight I'm very frustrated with a very frustrating player.
Let's be honest with each other, you are revelling in him missing them a bit though because it helps you win the argument you are having.

Talking about the lad like he's been here for years like Calvert Lewin. He's not a known quantity for us so he deserves some slack to see if he's good enough
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Seen Haaland miss those type of chances. It happens - like I said on the match thread he made the keeper work and make 2 decent saves, it’s not like he missed the target completely
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Puts one of the three in nobody remembers the other two. Didn’t go his way today, but credit where’s it’s due he’s getting into the positions to get these chances. Would DCL? What Moyes has done with him in six weeks in great and he’ll get better the more time Moyes works with him
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