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Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Charged again

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:30 pm
by Bluedylan1
The Doc wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:39 pm Let's just take a moment to think about this transfer window.

Its either:

1. A massive coincidence that every single club in the PL has maxed out FFP all at the same time. No clubs buying players like all previous January windows.

Or

2. They were all always breaking the rules and our points deduction has made them stop.

What on earth is going on? Why are we the only ones? We're badly run but I'm not having it that we're the only ever club to go over threshold (and now Forest)
Yeah, they've obviously all shit themselves a bit. Whether that is because they are non-complaint or at least very close to the limit, we can't be totally sure, but it's fair to say that pretty much all the clubs are run in quite a similar vein to what we've been punished for, and it adds to the idea of us being scapegoated.

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Charged again

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:36 pm
by Jamokachi
Confident in some good news from the appeal.

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Charged again

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 7:50 am
by superpull
Bluedylan1 wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:30 pm Yeah, they've obviously all shit themselves a bit. Whether that is because they are non-complaint or at least very close to the limit, we can't be totally sure, but it's fair to say that pretty much all the clubs are run in quite a similar vein to what we've been punished for, and it adds to the idea of us being scapegoated.

Also don't think it's entirely a coincidence that they have stopped spending this Jan and the rules are due to change in July.

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Charged again

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:45 pm
by Cods
The Doc wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:39 pm Let's just take a moment to think about this transfer window.

Its either:

1. A massive coincidence that every single club in the PL has maxed out FFP all at the same time. No clubs buying players like all previous January windows.

Or

2. They were all always breaking the rules and our points deduction has made them stop.

What on earth is going on? Why are we the only ones? We're badly run but I'm not having it that we're the only ever club to go over threshold (and now Forest)
Are Chelsea and City's charges not also somewhat similar (I honestly don't know), or are we already 'on message' about these naughty small clubs?

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Charged again

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:49 pm
by Gash
Cods wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:45 pm Are Chelsea and City's charges not also somewhat similar (I honestly don't know), or are we already 'on message' about these naughty small clubs?
Chelsea are still being investigated, they've not been charged with anything yet.

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Charged again

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 10:04 pm
by Toshyboy
No snippets leaked from The hearing today?

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Charged again

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:55 am
by superpull
Cods wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:45 pm Are Chelsea and City's charges not also somewhat similar (I honestly don't know), or are we already 'on message' about these naughty small clubs?
Masters said explicitly that City's were different

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Charged again

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:23 am
by 777Kidnappings
City accounts have balanced. Their charges are that they've rigged their accounts. Paying people off the books and inflating sponsorship deals.

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Charged again

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:29 am
by brap2
Mail claims 777 due to give us another £30m this month

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Charged again

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:39 am
by Paddockoldie
777Kidnappings wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:23 am City accounts have balanced. Their charges are that they've rigged their accounts. Paying people off the books and inflating sponsorship deals.
Clearly fuck all compared to 20 million over.

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Charged again

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:06 am
by 4evablu
Football has a crisis of governance, and it has a crisis of inequality, and it has a crisis of sustainability, and it has a crisis of middle aged people still calling it the Premiership. But above all, it has a crisis of trust. Before the proposed introduction of an independent regulator, the Premier League is desperately trying to show the world it can regulate itself, with an urgency it should probably have shown two decades ago. It’s trying to claw back the fans trust.
We’re fighting in 2024 the battles that should have been fought in 2014 and 2004, or even earlier. Decisions that were botched, shirked, ignored years ago are now coming home to roost....
The unregulated free for all that allowed first the oligarchs, and then the venture capitalists, and then the state actors, to claim a piece of our game.
Players signed for ridiculous sums by sporting directors and owners who are now long gone.
The decision to let the Super League breakaway clubs slide back into the competition with a paltry £3.7m fine for their trouble.....
Still, though.... Something about all this doesn’t quite sit right.
-Partly it is the idea that the Premier League – a competition that has always been in thrall to extravagant overspending... that built its entire appeal on flaunted excess and unlevel playing fields.... gets to sit in judgment of anybody about anything.
-Partly it is the idea that Everton can be punished twice for a set of accounts that are mostly the same..... but mostly it is this sense that we are being forced to relitigate the past.... to reconsider and re evaluate seasons and events that have already taken place, simply because those in charge at the time failed to do their duty.

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Charged again

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:10 am
by Cozzie
brap2 wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:29 am Mail claims 777 due to give us another £30m this month
This is what will end us.

We'll typically beat/survive these charges then these clowns will drive us into the dust.

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Charged again

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:16 am
by Goaljira
4evablu wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:06 am Football has a crisis of governance, and it has a crisis of inequality, and it has a crisis of sustainability, and it has a crisis of middle aged people still calling it the Premiership. But above all, it has a crisis of trust. Before the proposed introduction of an independent regulator, the Premier League is desperately trying to show the world it can regulate itself, with an urgency it should probably have shown two decades ago. It’s trying to claw back the fans trust.
We’re fighting in 2024 the battles that should have been fought in 2014 and 2004, or even earlier. Decisions that were botched, shirked, ignored years ago are now coming home to roost....
The unregulated free for all that allowed first the oligarchs, and then the venture capitalists, and then the state actors, to claim a piece of our game.
Players signed for ridiculous sums by sporting directors and owners who are now long gone.
The decision to let the Super League breakaway clubs slide back into the competition with a paltry £3.7m fine for their trouble.....
Still, though.... Something about all this doesn’t quite sit right.
-Partly it is the idea that the Premier League – a competition that has always been in thrall to extravagant overspending... that built its entire appeal on flaunted excess and unlevel playing fields.... gets to sit in judgment of anybody about anything.
-Partly it is the idea that Everton can be punished twice for a set of accounts that are mostly the same..... but mostly it is this sense that we are being forced to relitigate the past.... to reconsider and re evaluate seasons and events that have already taken place, simply because those in charge at the time failed to do their duty.
Come on now, give us time. Its only been......17 years.
How many times has the Premier League renamed?

First it was the FA Carling Premiership. In 2001 it became the Barclaycard Premiership. In 2004 it became the Barclays Premiership. And in 2007 it became the Barclays Premier League.

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Charged again

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:26 am
by Trowel

Re: Financial Fairplay Investigation - Charged again

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:45 am
by Cereal Killer
Just a small point

But why the fuck does our appeal have any link to them approving/denying a takeover??