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Re: Jadon Philogene

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:40 pm
by Trowel
Lovely bit of PSR work from Villa there TBF. Just highlights again what a sliding doors moment this was for us: https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... tor-monchi

Re: Jadon Philogene

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:58 pm
by toffee_scot
Evertonian418 wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:26 pm The curse of Dyche again.
Dyche: "Alright Jordan or Jadon...whatever, you would be a crucial part of the team, on the wing you will be responsible for supporting Ashley and Myko so we are a solid impenetrable unit".

Philogenge: "Erm...oooh my phone's ringing, hi Kieran, yes deal, you don't need to include Ed Sheeran tickets, I'm coming down to Ipswich now."

Re: Jadon Philogene

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 12:01 am
by brap2
kramer wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:23 pm Hate to see Villa operating so efficiently.

We should be ahead of them, not lagging behind them. Shame about Moshiri being clueless and setting us back several years.
Bournemouth, ahead of selling Kerkez in the summer, have just signed his successor for like £6m. 2 years younger.

Had moshiri had A clue, or we had implemented a proper football strategy back then with the finances we had, we honestly could be anywhere now. A few years ago the thought of breaking the top 6 was as big an achievement as top 4 in the early 00s, now the league is fractured, with teams like villa, Newcastle, Brighton, forest apparently, Bournemouth, Fulham, Brentford, all looking ready to step into gaps.

Had we bought and sold well, we could be champions League regulars now.

Re: Jadon Philogene

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 12:31 am
by kramer
brap2 wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 12:01 am Bournemouth, ahead of selling Kerkez in the summer, have just signed his successor for like £6m. 2 years younger.

Had moshiri had A clue, or we had implemented a proper football strategy back then with the finances we had, we honestly could be anywhere now. A few years ago the thought of breaking the top 6 was as big an achievement as top 4 in the early 00s, now the league is fractured, with teams like villa, Newcastle, Brighton, forest apparently, Bournemouth, Fulham, Brentford, all looking ready to step into gaps.

Had we bought and sold well, we could be champions League regulars now.
I remember believing we had a real opportunity to close that gap if we implemented the DOF model with someone shrewd pulling the strings after we sacked Martinez. I also remember being totally convinced that Moshiri was going to commit to this (like a moron).

We opted to try to gate crash the top 4 like Chelsea or City without any mind being paid to the fact that those clubs pulled the ladder up behind them.

We can still catch up to all the clubs you mentioned but instead of being in the pole position to capitalize when the money clubs falter, we’re just one of many competing to step up.

Re: Jadon Philogene

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 6:25 am
by Paddockoldie
No good thinking what couldda, shouldda been. We have to live and think in the now, because right now, we're on shit street

Re: Jadon Philogene

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:32 am
by Juanito
Cozzie wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:53 pm Mental money that for a side going down.

Even Ipswich could have probably spent that better.
On present form I back them to stay up over us.

Re: Jadon Philogene

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:33 am
by Cozzie
Juanito wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:32 am On present form I back them to stay up over us.
This seasons Luton for me.

Good in parts but not sustainable over 38 games for me.

Saying that neither is ours.

Re: Jadon Philogene

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:46 am
by Juanito
toffee_scot wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:58 pm Dyche: "Alright Jordan or Jadon...whatever, you would be a crucial part of the team, on the wing you will be responsible for supporting Ashley and Myko so we are a solid impenetrable unit".

Philogenge: "Erm...oooh my phone's ringing, hi Kieran, yes deal, you don't need to include Ed Sheeran tickets, I'm coming down to Ipswich now."
Was thinking Dyche would not be appealing for an attacking player and puts a real barrier in our bid to sign players this window.

Re: Jadon Philogene

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:30 am
by Kerryblueboy
Having his Ipswich medical this morning another sign of dyche holding us back young player not wanting to come and play for the dinosaur

Re: Jadon Philogene

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:40 am
by AjaxAndy
Kerryblueboy wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:30 am Having his Ipswich medical this morning another sign of dyche holding us back young player not wanting to come and play for the dinosaur
You think we have £21m for a player... I think you might be surprised when we don't actually end up having £21m available for a player.

Re: Jadon Philogene

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:59 am
by Kerryblueboy
AjaxAndy wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:40 am You think we have £21m for a player... I think you might be surprised when we don't actually end up having £21m available for a player.
Who knows what we have available my point is you have the choice to play for McKenna or dyche who are you choosing

Re: Jadon Philogene

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:07 am
by AjaxAndy
Kerryblueboy wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:59 am Who knows what we have available my point is you have the choice to play for McKenna or dyche who are you choosing
But he probably didn't even have to make that decision so your post makes no sense.

Re: Jadon Philogene

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:21 am
by Kerryblueboy
AjaxAndy wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:07 am But he probably didn't even have to make that decision so your post makes no sense.
Romano quoted us as having bid for him so yeah there is evidence but you keep banging the dyche drum it’s plainly obvious any young player looking to play wouldn’t come here under him

Re: Jadon Philogene

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:22 am
by Shogun
Are you saying he doesn't fancy playing forward fullback?

Re: Jadon Philogene

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:22 am
by Raptor
Ill be amazed if the manager even comes into consideration, or if it does it comes massively below 'who will pay me the most.
Most players know they probably wont be playing for any manager for more than a couple of years, max, its proven that managers dont last.